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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>
Cc: "Shakeel Butt" <shakeelb@google.com>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Muchun Song" <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Soheil Hassas Yeganeh" <soheil@google.com>,
	"Feng Tang" <feng.tang@intel.com>,
	"Oliver Sang" <oliver.sang@intel.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	lkp@lists.01.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] memcg: increase MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH to 64
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 21:34:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YwPZ1lpJ98pZSLmw@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YwPM6o1+pZ2kRyy3@P9FQF9L96D>

On Mon 22-08-22 11:37:30, Roman Gushchin wrote:
[...]
> I wonder only if we want to make it configurable (Idk a sysctl or maybe
> a config option) and close the topic.

I do not think this is a good idea. We have other examples where we have
outsourced internal tunning to the userspace and it has mostly proven
impractical and long term more problematic than useful (e.g.
lowmem_reserve_ratio, percpu_pagelist_high_fraction, swappiness just to
name some that come to my mind). I have seen more often these to be used
incorrectly than useful.

In this case, I guess we should consider either moving to per memcg
charge batching and see whether the pcp overhead x memcg_count is worth
that or some automagic tuning of the batch size depending on how
effectively the batch is used. Certainly a lot of room for
experimenting.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-22 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-22  0:17 [PATCH 0/3] memcg: optimizatize charge codepath Shakeel Butt
2022-08-22  0:17 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: page_counter: remove unneeded atomic ops for low/min Shakeel Butt
2022-08-22  0:20   ` Soheil Hassas Yeganeh
2022-08-22  2:39   ` Feng Tang
2022-08-22  9:55   ` Michal Hocko
2022-08-22 10:18     ` Michal Hocko
2022-08-22 14:55       ` Shakeel Butt
2022-08-22 15:20         ` Michal Hocko
2022-08-22 16:06           ` Shakeel Butt
2022-08-23  9:42           ` Michal Hocko
2022-08-22 18:23   ` Roman Gushchin
2022-08-22  0:17 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: page_counter: rearrange struct page_counter fields Shakeel Butt
2022-08-22  0:24   ` Soheil Hassas Yeganeh
2022-08-22  4:55     ` Shakeel Butt
2022-08-22 13:06       ` Soheil Hassas Yeganeh
2022-08-22  2:10   ` Feng Tang
2022-08-22  4:59     ` Shakeel Butt
2022-08-22 10:23   ` Michal Hocko
2022-08-22 15:06     ` Shakeel Butt
2022-08-22 15:15       ` Michal Hocko
2022-08-22 16:04         ` Shakeel Butt
2022-08-22 18:27           ` Roman Gushchin
2022-08-22  0:17 ` [PATCH 3/3] memcg: increase MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH to 64 Shakeel Butt
2022-08-22  0:24   ` Soheil Hassas Yeganeh
2022-08-22  2:30   ` Feng Tang
2022-08-22 10:47   ` Michal Hocko
2022-08-22 15:09     ` Shakeel Butt
2022-08-22 15:22       ` Michal Hocko
2022-08-22 16:07         ` Shakeel Butt
2022-08-22 18:37   ` Roman Gushchin
2022-08-22 19:34     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2022-08-23  2:22       ` Roman Gushchin
2022-08-23  4:49         ` Michal Hocko

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