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From: Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>
To: Muhammad Usama Anjum <usama.anjum@collabora.com>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
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	"open list:MEMORY MANAGEMENT" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"open list:KERNEL SELFTEST FRAMEWORK" 
	<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>,
	kernel@collabora.com,
	Gabriel Krisman Bertazi <krisman@collabora.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Peter Enderborg <peter.enderborg@sony.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] Implement IOCTL to get and clear soft dirty PTE
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 07:58:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YyiDg79flhWoMDZB@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220826064535.1941190-1-usama.anjum@collabora.com>

On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 11:45:31AM +0500, Muhammad Usama Anjum wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> This patch series implements a new ioctl on the pagemap proc fs file to
> get, clear and perform both get and clear at the same time atomically on
> the specified range of the memory.
> 
> Soft-dirty PTE bit of the memory pages can be viewed by using pagemap
> procfs file. The soft-dirty PTE bit for the whole memory range of the
> process can be cleared by writing to the clear_refs file. This series
> adds features that weren't present earlier.
> - There is no atomic get soft-dirty PTE bit status and clear operation
>   present.
> - The soft-dirty PTE bit of only a part of memory cannot be cleared.
> 
> Historically, soft-dirty PTE bit tracking has been used in the CRIU
> project. The proc fs interface is enough for that as I think the process
> is frozen. We have the use case where we need to track the soft-dirty
> PTE bit for the running processes. We need this tracking and clear
> mechanism of a region of memory while the process is running to emulate
> the getWriteWatch() syscall of Windows. This syscall is used by games to
> keep track of dirty pages and keep processing only the dirty pages. This
> new ioctl can be used by the CRIU project and other applications which
> require soft-dirty PTE bit information.
> 
> As in the current kernel there is no way to clear a part of memory (instead
> of clearing the Soft-Dirty bits for the entire process) and get+clear
> operation cannot be performed atomically, there are other methods to mimic
> this information entirely in userspace with poor performance:
> - The mprotect syscall and SIGSEGV handler for bookkeeping
> - The userfaultfd syscall with the handler for bookkeeping
> Some benchmarks can be seen [1].
> 
> This ioctl can be used by the CRIU project and other applications which
> require soft-dirty PTE bit information. The following operations are
> supported in this ioctl:
> - Get the pages that are soft-dirty.

I think this interface doesn't have to be limited by the soft-dirty
bits only. For example, CRIU needs to know whether file, present and swap bits
are set or not.

I mean we should be able to specify for what pages we need to get info
for. An ioctl argument can have these four fields:
* required bits (rmask & mask == mask) - all bits from this mask have to be set.
* any of these bits (amask & mask != 0) - any of these bits is set.
* exclude masks (emask & mask == 0) = none of these bits are set.
* return mask - bits that have to be reported to user.

> - Clear the pages which are soft-dirty.
> - The optional flag to ignore the VM_SOFTDIRTY and only track per page
> soft-dirty PTE bit
> 
> There are two decisions which have been taken about how to get the output
> from the syscall.
> - Return offsets of the pages from the start in the vec

We can conside to return regions that contains pages with the same set
of bits.

struct page_region {
	void *start;
	long size;
	u64 bitmap;
}

And ioctl returns arrays of page_region-s. I believe it will be more
compact form for many cases.

> - Stop execution when vec is filled with dirty pages
> These two arguments doesn't follow the mincore() philosophy where the
> output array corresponds to the address range in one to one fashion, hence
> the output buffer length isn't passed and only a flag is set if the page
> is present. This makes mincore() easy to use with less control. We are
> passing the size of the output array and putting return data consecutively
> which is offset of dirty pages from the start. The user can convert these
> offsets back into the dirty page addresses easily. Suppose, the user want
> to get first 10 dirty pages from a total memory of 100 pages. He'll
> allocate output buffer of size 10 and the ioctl will abort after finding the
> 10 pages. This behaviour is needed to support Windows' getWriteWatch(). The
> behaviour like mincore() can be achieved by passing output buffer of 100
> size. This interface can be used for any desired behaviour.
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/54d4c322-cd6e-eefd-b161-2af2b56aae24@collabora.com/
> 
> Regards,
> Muhammad Usama Anjum
> 
> Muhammad Usama Anjum (4):
>   fs/proc/task_mmu: update functions to clear the soft-dirty PTE bit
>   fs/proc/task_mmu: Implement IOCTL to get and clear soft dirty PTE bit
>   selftests: vm: add pagemap ioctl tests
>   mm: add documentation of the new ioctl on pagemap
> 
>  Documentation/admin-guide/mm/soft-dirty.rst |  42 +-
>  fs/proc/task_mmu.c                          | 342 ++++++++++-
>  include/uapi/linux/fs.h                     |  23 +
>  tools/include/uapi/linux/fs.h               |  23 +
>  tools/testing/selftests/vm/.gitignore       |   1 +
>  tools/testing/selftests/vm/Makefile         |   2 +
>  tools/testing/selftests/vm/pagemap_ioctl.c  | 649 ++++++++++++++++++++
>  7 files changed, 1050 insertions(+), 32 deletions(-)
>  create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/vm/pagemap_ioctl.c
> 
> -- 
> 2.30.2
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-09-19 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-26  6:45 [PATCH v3 0/4] Implement IOCTL to get and clear soft dirty PTE Muhammad Usama Anjum
2022-08-26  6:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] fs/proc/task_mmu: update functions to clear the soft-dirty PTE bit Muhammad Usama Anjum
2022-08-26  6:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] fs/proc/task_mmu: Implement IOCTL to get and clear soft dirty " Muhammad Usama Anjum
2022-08-26  6:45 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] selftests: vm: add pagemap ioctl tests Muhammad Usama Anjum
2022-08-26  6:45 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] mm: add documentation of the new ioctl on pagemap Muhammad Usama Anjum
2022-08-26  8:22   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-09-07  9:40 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] Implement IOCTL to get and clear soft dirty PTE Muhammad Usama Anjum
2022-09-19 14:58 ` Andrei Vagin [this message]
2022-09-21 18:26   ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2022-09-28 17:24     ` Andrei Vagin
2022-10-03 11:21       ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2022-10-11  4:52         ` Andrei Vagin
2022-10-14 13:48           ` Danylo Mocherniuk
2022-10-18 10:36             ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2022-10-18 10:48               ` Greg KH
2022-10-18 12:30                 ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2022-10-18 11:11               ` Michał Mirosław
2022-10-18 13:22                 ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2022-10-18 17:17                   ` Michał Mirosław
2022-10-19  7:18                     ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2022-10-18 13:32               ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2022-10-18 18:20                 ` Greg KH
2022-09-21 18:30 ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2022-09-28  6:03 ` Muhammad Usama Anjum

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