From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC92C77B73 for ; Wed, 24 May 2023 08:09:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S240077AbjEXIJ0 (ORCPT ); Wed, 24 May 2023 04:09:26 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:58986 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S235142AbjEXIJX (ORCPT ); Wed, 24 May 2023 04:09:23 -0400 Received: from out-47.mta1.migadu.com (out-47.mta1.migadu.com [95.215.58.47]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71270B3 for ; Wed, 24 May 2023 01:09:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 04:09:02 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linux.dev; s=key1; t=1684915747; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=PkhXh/TNyeXnNZOI/g5bdL7/bZLBDieBo7l7auFehJY=; b=OXVDS+r2p27nxKKqRkqENlViSIEfqtZGoYc3kUZAvrLrMCsgBoAWydyq7TCQCOP9ytJb4X X21tXArPk8LIe/Q4J2B9PVtUETWXb4sqWXRQ4bSH/XBnuRWF2Venmm+l0ZxUIhayGx1DEF Ej6hv4vtmZ0eemIzKCYqV1JLFVorz/I= X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. From: Kent Overstreet To: Christoph Hellwig Cc: Jan Kara , cluster-devel@redhat.com, "Darrick J . Wong" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dhowells@redhat.com, linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Kent Overstreet Subject: Re: [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 06/32] sched: Add task_struct->faults_disabled_mapping Message-ID: References: <20230509165657.1735798-1-kent.overstreet@linux.dev> <20230509165657.1735798-7-kent.overstreet@linux.dev> <20230510010737.heniyuxazlprrbd6@quack3> <20230523133431.wwrkjtptu6vqqh5e@quack3> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 11:43:32PM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 12:35:35PM -0400, Kent Overstreet wrote: > > No, this is fundamentally because userspace controls the ordering of > > locking because the buffer passed to dio can point into any address > > space. You can't solve this by changing the locking heirarchy. > > > > If you want to be able to have locking around adding things to the > > pagecache so that things that bypass the pagecache can prevent > > inconsistencies (and we do, the big one is fcollapse), and if you want > > dio to be able to use that same locking (because otherwise dio will also > > cause page cache inconsistency), this is the way to do it. > > Well, it seems like you are talking about something else than the > existing cases in gfs2 and btrfs, that is you want full consistency > between direct I/O and buffered I/O. That's something nothing in the > kernel has ever provided, so I'd be curious why you think you need it > and want different semantics from everyone else? Because I like code that is correct.