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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>
Cc: "Dmitry Osipenko" <dmitry.osipenko@collabora.com>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Gurchetan Singh" <gurchetansingh@chromium.org>,
	"Chia-I Wu" <olvaffe@gmail.com>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Qiang Yu" <yuq825@gmail.com>,
	"Steven Price" <steven.price@arm.com>,
	"Emma Anholt" <emma@anholt.net>, "Melissa Wen" <mwen@igalia.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v19 22/30] drm/shmem-helper: Add common memory shrinker
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2024 09:39:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zbi1pzY3CbQxnnBQ@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240125100703.76d802ad@collabora.com>

On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 10:07:03AM +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> On Fri,  5 Jan 2024 21:46:16 +0300
> Dmitry Osipenko <dmitry.osipenko@collabora.com> wrote:
> 
> >   *
> >   * This function Increases the use count and allocates the backing pages if
> >   * use-count equals to zero.
> > + *
> > + * Note that this function doesn't pin pages in memory. If your driver
> > + * uses drm-shmem shrinker, then it's free to relocate pages to swap.
> > + * Getting pages only guarantees that pages are allocated, and not that
> > + * pages reside in memory. In order to pin pages use drm_gem_shmem_pin().
> 
> I still find this explanation confusing, if pages are allocated, they
> reside in memory. The only difference between drm_gem_shmem_get_pages()
> and drm_gem_shmem_pin_pages() is that the former lets the system
> reclaim the memory if the buffer is idle (no unsignalled fence attached
> to the dma_resv).
> 
> We also need to describe the workflow for GEM validation (that's the
> TTM term for the swapin process happening when a GPU job is submitted).
> 
> 1. Prepare the GPU job and initialize its fence
> 2. Lock the GEM resv
> 3. Add the GPU job fence to the resv object
> 4. If the GEM is evicted
>    a. call drm_gem_shmem_swapin_locked()
>    b. get the new sgt with drm_gem_shmem_get_pages_sgt_locked()
>    c. repopulate the MMU table (driver internals)

Might be good to explain where to call drm_sched_job_arm() here for
drivers using drm/sched, since that also needs to be at a very specific
point. Probably best to flesh out the details here by linking to the
relevant drm/sched and gpuvm functions as examples.

> 5. Unlock the GEM dma_resv
> 6. Submit the GPU job
> 
> With this sequence, the GEM pages are guaranteed to stay around until
> the GPU job is finished.

Yeah I think the comment needs to explain how this ties together with
dma_resv locking and dma_resv fences, otherwise it just doesn't make much
sense.

This holds even more so given that some of the earlier drivers derived
from i915-gem code (and i915-gem itself) use _pin() both for these more
permanent pinnings, and also to temporarily put the memory in place before
it all gets fenced and then unpinned&unlocked.

So would be really good to have the sharpest possible nomeclatura here we
can get, and link between all the related concepts and functions in the
kerneldoc.

Some overview flow like Boris sketched above in a DOC: section would also
be great.

Cheers, Sima
> 
> >   */
> >  int drm_gem_shmem_get_pages(struct drm_gem_shmem_object *shmem)

-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch

  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-30  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-05 18:45 [PATCH v19 00/30] Add generic memory shrinker to VirtIO-GPU and Panfrost DRM drivers Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-05 18:45 ` [PATCH v19 01/30] drm/gem: Change locked/unlocked postfix of drm_gem_v/unmap() function names Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-05 18:45 ` [PATCH v19 02/30] drm/gem: Add _locked postfix to functions that have unlocked counterpart Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-05 18:45 ` [PATCH v19 03/30] drm/gem: Document locking rule of vmap and evict callbacks Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-25  7:55   ` Boris Brezillon
2024-01-05 18:45 ` [PATCH v19 04/30] drm/shmem-helper: Make all exported symbols GPL Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-05 18:45 ` [PATCH v19 05/30] drm/shmem-helper: Refactor locked/unlocked functions Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 06/30] drm/shmem-helper: Remove obsoleted is_iomem test Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 07/30] drm/shmem-helper: Add and use pages_pin_count Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 08/30] drm/shmem-helper: Use refcount_t for pages_use_count Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 09/30] drm/shmem-helper: Add and use lockless drm_gem_shmem_get_pages() Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-25 17:24   ` Daniel Vetter
2024-01-25 21:52     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-26 10:18     ` Boris Brezillon
2024-01-26 16:43       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-30  8:34         ` Daniel Vetter
2024-01-30 10:05           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-30 10:10           ` Boris Brezillon
2024-02-01 18:53             ` Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 10/30] drm/shmem-helper: Switch drm_gem_shmem_vmap/vunmap to use pin/unpin Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 11/30] drm/shmem-helper: Use refcount_t for vmap_use_count Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 12/30] drm/shmem-helper: Prepare drm_gem_shmem_free() to shrinker addition Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-25  8:01   ` Boris Brezillon
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 13/30] drm/shmem-helper: Make drm_gem_shmem_get_pages() public Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-25  8:02   ` Boris Brezillon
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 14/30] drm/shmem-helper: Add drm_gem_shmem_put_pages() Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-25  8:02   ` Boris Brezillon
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 15/30] drm/shmem-helper: Avoid lockdep warning when pages are released Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-25  8:02   ` Boris Brezillon
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 16/30] drm/lima: Explicitly get and put drm-shmem pages Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 17/30] drm/panfrost: Fix the error path in panfrost_mmu_map_fault_addr() Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-25 16:47   ` Steven Price
2024-01-25 21:41   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-25 21:44     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-26  9:08   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2024-04-04 15:23   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 18/30] drm/panfrost: Explicitly get and put drm-shmem pages Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-25  8:10   ` Boris Brezillon
2024-01-25 16:47   ` Steven Price
2024-01-26  9:39     ` Boris Brezillon
2024-01-26 11:26       ` Steven Price
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 19/30] drm/virtio: " Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 20/30] drm/v3d: " Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 21/30] drm/shmem-helper: Change sgt allocation policy Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 22/30] drm/shmem-helper: Add common memory shrinker Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-25  9:07   ` Boris Brezillon
2024-01-30  8:39     ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2024-01-30 10:04       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-25 10:19   ` Boris Brezillon
2024-01-25 21:56     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-26  9:55       ` Boris Brezillon
2024-01-26 16:27         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-26 18:12           ` Boris Brezillon
2024-01-29  6:16             ` Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-29  8:55               ` Boris Brezillon
2024-01-29  9:06                 ` Boris Brezillon
2024-01-29  9:01   ` Boris Brezillon
2024-01-29  9:25     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 23/30] drm/shmem-helper: Export drm_gem_shmem_get_pages_sgt_locked() Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-25  9:09   ` Boris Brezillon
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 24/30] drm/shmem-helper: Optimize unlocked get_pages_sgt() Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-25  9:28   ` Boris Brezillon
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 25/30] drm/shmem-helper: Don't free refcounted GEM Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 26/30] drm/shmem-helper: Turn warnings about imported GEM into errors Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 27/30] drm/virtio: Pin display framebuffer BO Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 28/30] drm/virtio: Attach shmem BOs dynamically Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 29/30] drm/virtio: Support shmem shrinking Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-05 18:46 ` [PATCH v19 30/30] drm/panfrost: Switch to generic memory shrinker Dmitry Osipenko
2024-01-25  9:49   ` Boris Brezillon
2024-01-25 12:04     ` Dmitry Osipenko

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