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From: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>
To: Cezary Rojewski <cezary.rojewski@intel.com>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	tiwai@suse.de, broonie@kernel.org, vkoul@kernel.org,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, jank@cadence.com,
	srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org, slawomir.blauciak@intel.com,
	Sanyog Kale <sanyog.r.kale@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] [RFC PATCH 27/40] soundwire: Add Intel resource management algorithm
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 09:41:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a1da9937-0e20-d83d-ec90-c3fd9f3fbeca@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <869edbf2-1fdd-6b21-818f-20c39c013c11@intel.com>



On 7/26/19 6:07 AM, Cezary Rojewski wrote:
> On 2019-07-26 01:40, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
>> This algorithm computes bus parameters like clock frequency, frame
>> shape and port transport parameters based on active stream(s) running
>> on the bus.
>>
>> This implementation is optimal for Intel platforms. Developers can
>> also implement their own .compute_params() callback for specific
>> resource management algorithm.
>>
>> Credits: this patch is based on an earlier internal contribution by
>> Vinod Koul, Sanyog Kale, Shreyas Nc and Hardik Shah. All hard-coded
>> values were removed from the initial contribution to use BIOS
>> information instead.
>>
>> FIXME: remove checkpatch report
>> WARNING: Reusing the krealloc arg is almost always a bug
>> +            group->rates = krealloc(group->rates,
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Pierre-Louis Bossart 
>> <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>
> 
> Could you specify the requirements and limitations for this algorithm? 
> Last year I written calc for Linux based on Windows (please don't burn 
> me here) equivalent though said requirements/ limitiations might have 
> changed and nothing is valid any longer.

The frame shape typically only changes by doubling the number of 
columns, and the priority is given to PDM streams which use columns. 
It's hard to document this on a public mailing list, it'd require making 
references to a spec that's only available to MIPI members.

> 
> I remember that some parts of specification overcomplicated the 
> calculator and due to actual, realtime usecases it could be greatly 
> simplified (that's why I mention that my work is probably no longer 
> valid). However, these details would help me in reviewing your 
> implementation and providing suggestions.

To the best of my knowledge, the algorithm follows a script that is used 
for both Windows and Linux. The code was initially written by Vinod and 
team, and I am not aware of simplifications.
There a simplifications that are possible, e.g. we don't support PDM for 
now and the notion of grouping is not needed, but we have to carefully 
balance 'optimization' with 'introducing bugs'. if this algorithm craps 
out then the entire bus operation is in the weeds.

If we really want people to experiment and get a feel for the 
performance of the algorithm, we should really provide a UI where the 
stream parameters can be entered and visually check what the algorithm 
is doing. I have a solution that shows the bits based on the stream 
parameters (need to make it available e.g. in Python), if we connected 
it with the automatic bit allocation it'd be very useful.

> And yes, "Frame shape calculator" probably suits this better.
> Though this might be just a preference thingy : )

Resource management is indeed a bit vague. But frame shape calculator is 
not quite right. The algorithm will find the frame shape that is 
required for the current bandwidth, but will also allocate the bitSlots 
in that frame. In MIPI circles we talk about bitSlot allocation.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-26 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 183+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-25 23:39 [RFC PATCH 00/40] soundwire: updates for 5.4 Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:39 ` [RFC PATCH 01/40] soundwire: add debugfs support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 22:15   ` [alsa-devel] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 13:43     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26  9:22   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 13:57     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 14:04   ` Greg KH
2019-07-26 15:29     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:39 ` [RFC PATCH 02/40] soundwire: cadence_master: add debugfs register dump Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 14:09   ` Greg KH
2019-07-26 15:32     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-05  7:55   ` Sanyog Kale
2019-08-05 15:20     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:39 ` [RFC PATCH 03/40] soundwire: cadence_master: align debugfs to 8 digits Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26  9:38   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 13:58     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 11:50   ` Vinod Koul
2019-07-25 23:39 ` [RFC PATCH 04/40] soundwire: intel: add debugfs register dump Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26  9:35   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 14:00     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 14:11       ` Greg KH
2019-07-26 14:06   ` Greg KH
2019-07-26 14:09     ` Greg KH
2019-07-26 15:34     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:39 ` [RFC PATCH 05/40] soundwire: intel: move interrupt enable after interrupt handler registration Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 11:53   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 15:08     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:39 ` [RFC PATCH 06/40] soundwire: intel: prevent possible dereference in hw_params Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26  9:45   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 14:02     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 11:55   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 15:16     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 15:57       ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 16:52         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 17:37           ` Vinod Koul
2019-07-25 23:39 ` [RFC PATCH 07/40] soundwire: intel: fix channel number reported by hardware Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 11:57   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 15:18     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 08/40] soundwire: intel: remove BIOS work-arounds Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 11:58   ` Vinod Koul
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 09/40] soundwire: cadence_master: fix usage of CONFIG_UPDATE Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 22:23   ` [alsa-devel] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 14:05     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26  2:11   ` Bard liao
2019-07-26 13:33     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26  9:53   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26  9:54     ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-08-02 12:03   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 15:18     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-05  8:51   ` Sanyog Kale
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 10/40] soundwire: cadence_master: remove useless wrapper Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 11/40] soundwire: cadence_master: simplify bus clash interrupt clear Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 12:07   ` Vinod Koul
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 12/40] soundwire: cadence_master: revisit interrupt settings Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 12:10   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 15:23     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 13/40] soundwire: cadence_master: fix register definition for SLAVE_STATE Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 12:12   ` Vinod Koul
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 14/40] soundwire: cadence_master: fix definitions for INTSTAT0/1 Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 12:13   ` Vinod Koul
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 15/40] soundwire: cadence_master: handle multiple status reports per Slave Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 22:31   ` [alsa-devel] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 14:09     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 12:20   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 15:29     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 16:01       ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 16:41         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 16/40] soundwire: cadence_master: improve startup sequence with link hw_reset Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26  7:22   ` [alsa-devel] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 14:11     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 17/40] soundwire: bus: use runtime_pm_get_sync/pm when enabled Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26  7:39   ` [alsa-devel] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26  7:47     ` Jan Kotas
2019-07-26  8:22       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26  8:33         ` Jan Kotas
2019-07-26  8:42           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 18:08   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 18:25     ` [alsa-devel] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 19:11       ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-07-26 19:08     ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-07-29 22:07       ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-30 11:21         ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-07-30 12:57           ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-30 15:58             ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-07-30 15:59               ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-08-02 16:58   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 17:20     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 18/40] soundwire: bus: split handling of Device0 events Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 16:59   ` Vinod Koul
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 19/40] soundwire: bus: improve dynamic debug comments for enumeration Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 17:00   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 17:20     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 20/40] soundwire: prototypes for suspend/resume Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 10:04   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 14:15     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 17:03   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 17:21     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 21/40] soundwire: export helpers to find row and column values Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 14:43   ` [alsa-devel] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 15:26     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 17:04       ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-05  9:39   ` Sanyog Kale
2019-08-05 15:27     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 22/40] soundwire: include mod_devicetable.h to avoid compiling warnings Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 23/40] soundwire: stream: fix disable sequence Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 10:14   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 14:17     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 14:51   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 15:05     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-05  9:56   ` Sanyog Kale
2019-08-05 15:33     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-05 16:32       ` Sanyog Kale
2019-08-05 19:12         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 24/40] soundwire: cadence_master: use BIOS defaults for frame shape Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 10:20   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 14:22     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 17:10   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 17:24     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-05 10:01   ` Sanyog Kale
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 25/40] soundwire: intel: use BIOS information to set clock dividers Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 17:17   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 17:29     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-05 10:28   ` Sanyog Kale
2019-08-05 15:40     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 26/40] soundwire: cadence_master: fix divider setting in clock register Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26  5:19   ` [alsa-devel] " Bard liao
2019-07-26  5:56     ` rander.wang
2019-07-26 14:24     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 17:19   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 17:30     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-05 10:40   ` Sanyog Kale
2019-08-05 15:41     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 27/40] soundwire: Add Intel resource management algorithm Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 11:07   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 14:41     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart [this message]
2019-07-26 15:43   ` [alsa-devel] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 17:55     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-05 16:54   ` Sanyog Kale
2019-08-05 19:08     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 28/40] soundwire: intel: handle disabled links Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-05 16:57   ` Sanyog Kale
2019-08-05 19:18     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 29/40] soundwire: intel_init: add kernel module parameter to filter out links Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 10:30   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 14:43     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 30/40] soundwire: cadence_master: add kernel parameter to override interrupt mask Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 31/40] soundwire: intel: move shutdown() callback and don't export symbol Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 10:38   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 14:46     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 17:28       ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 17:42         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-14 19:31         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-23  7:34           ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-23 15:57             ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 32/40] soundwire: intel: add helper for initialization Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 10:42   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 14:55     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 33/40] soundwire: intel: Add basic power management support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 10:50   ` Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 14:57     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 34/40] soundwire: intel: ignore disabled links for suspend/resume Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 17:30   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 17:44     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 35/40] soundwire: intel: export helper to exit reset Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 15:52   ` [alsa-devel] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 17:22     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-08-02 17:31   ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 17:44     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 36/40] soundwire: intel: disable interrupts on suspend Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 15:55   ` [alsa-devel] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 17:26     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 37/40] soundwire: cadence_master: add hw_reset capability in debugfs Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 14:07   ` Greg KH
2019-07-26 15:01     ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 15:57   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 17:31     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 38/40] soundwire: cadence_master: make clock stop exit configurable on init Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 16:02   ` [alsa-devel] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2019-07-26 17:35     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 39/40] soundwire: intel: add pm_runtime support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-25 23:40 ` [RFC PATCH 40/40] soundwire: intel: add delay on restart for enumeration Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-07-26 11:14 ` [RFC PATCH 00/40] soundwire: updates for 5.4 Cezary Rojewski
2019-07-26 15:23   ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart

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