From: Benjamin GAIGNARD <benjamin.gaignard@st.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
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Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] Introduce cpufreq minimum load QoS
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 13:46:00 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a234e123-6c15-8e58-8921-614b58ca24ca@st.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0h6t6perZiibCWhEh1_V0pSXqFe-z22TFqH7KTFXYmqpQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 4/30/20 11:03 AM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 9:53 AM Benjamin GAIGNARD
> <benjamin.gaignard@st.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 4/29/20 6:12 PM, Valentin Schneider wrote:
>>> On 29/04/2020 16:57, Benjamin GAIGNARD wrote:
>>>> On 4/29/20 5:50 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, April 24, 2020 1:40:55 PM CEST Benjamin Gaignard wrote:
>>>>>> When start streaming from the sensor the CPU load could remain very low
>>>>>> because almost all the capture pipeline is done in hardware (i.e. without
>>>>>> using the CPU) and let believe to cpufreq governor that it could use lower
>>>>>> frequencies. If the governor decides to use a too low frequency that
>>>>>> becomes a problem when we need to acknowledge the interrupt during the
>>>>>> blanking time.
>>>>>> The delay to ack the interrupt and perform all the other actions before
>>>>>> the next frame is very short and doesn't allow to the cpufreq governor to
>>>>>> provide the required burst of power. That led to drop the half of the frames.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To avoid this problem, DCMI driver informs the cpufreq governors by adding
>>>>>> a cpufreq minimum load QoS resquest.
>>>>> This seems to be addressing a use case that can be addressed with the help of
>>>>> utilization clamps with less power overhead.
>>>> Do mean clamping the policy frequencies ? I may have miss the API to do
>>>> that...
>>> IIUC Rafael is referring to uclamp, i.e. scheduler utilization clamping, see:
>>>
>>> https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/cgroup-v2.html#cpu
>>>
>>> The above describes the cgroup interface, note that you can also set clamps
>>> per task (via sched_setattr()).
>>>
>>> One thing that comes to mind however is that schedutil only "sees" the clamps
>>> of runnable tasks, and from reading your changelog you may not have moments
>>> without any (i.e. gears are grinding in HW). You'd have to try boosting
>>> (setting a high uclamp.min) whatever tasks you have on the software side and
>>> see how it all behaves.
>> Relying on userland side means that various applications need to be aware
>> of this specific hardware case and fix it. I was hoping to find a
>> solution in side the kernel
>> to not impact the software side.
> That's not what I meant.
>
> I suppose that the interrupt processing in question takes place in
> process context and so you may set the lower clamp on the utilization
> of the task carrying that out.
I have try to add this code when starting streaming (before the first
interrupt) the frames from the sensor:
const struct sched_attr sched_attr = {
.sched_util_min = 10000, /* 100% of usage */
.sched_flags = SCHED_FLAG_UTIL_CLAMP_MIN,
};
sched_setattr(current, &sched_attr);
I don't see any benefices maybe there is some configuration flags to set.
How changing sched_util_min could impact cpufreq ondemand governor ?
Does it change the value returned when the governor check the idle time ?
>
> Alternatively, that task may be a deadline one.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-04-30 13:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-24 11:40 [RFC 0/3] Introduce cpufreq minimum load QoS Benjamin Gaignard
2020-04-24 11:40 ` [RFC 1/3] PM: QoS: " Benjamin Gaignard
2020-04-24 11:40 ` [RFC 2/3] cpufreq: governor: Use " Benjamin Gaignard
2020-04-24 11:40 ` [RFC 3/3] media: stm32-dcmi: Inform cpufreq governors about cpu load needs Benjamin Gaignard
2020-04-29 15:50 ` [RFC 0/3] Introduce cpufreq minimum load QoS Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-04-29 15:57 ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-04-29 16:12 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-30 7:52 ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-04-30 9:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-04-30 13:46 ` Benjamin GAIGNARD [this message]
2020-04-30 14:33 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-30 15:37 ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-04-30 15:50 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-05-04 9:17 ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-05-20 7:29 ` [Linux-stm32] " Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-04-29 17:08 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-04-30 9:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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