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From: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	H Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>, Babu Moger <Babu.Moger@amd.com>,
	shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com,
	D Scott Phillips OS <scott@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	carl@os.amperecomputing.com, lcherian@marvell.com,
	bobo.shaobowang@huawei.com, tan.shaopeng@fujitsu.com,
	xingxin.hx@openanolis.org, baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com,
	Jamie Iles <quic_jiles@quicinc.com>,
	Xin Hao <xhao@linux.alibaba.com>,
	peternewman@google.com, dfustini@baylibre.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 15/24] x86/resctrl: Allow arch to allocate memory needed in resctrl_arch_rmid_read()
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2023 18:37:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <acd712b8-748b-e9f5-0bf3-9cfadca34c95@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4f7facea-ffc4-63c3-b960-fa92eb03b04c@intel.com>

Hi Reinette,

On 25/08/2023 00:04, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> On 8/24/2023 9:56 AM, James Morse wrote:
>> On 09/08/2023 23:37, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>> On 7/28/2023 9:42 AM, James Morse wrote:
>>>> Depending on the number of monitors available, Arm's MPAM may need to
>>>> allocate a monitor prior to reading the counter value. Allocating a
>>>> contended resource may involve sleeping.
>>>>
>>>> add_rmid_to_limbo() calls resctrl_arch_rmid_read() for multiple domains,
>>>> the allocation should be valid for all domains.
>>>>
>>>> __check_limbo() and mon_event_count() each make multiple calls to
>>>> resctrl_arch_rmid_read(), to avoid extra work on contended systems,
>>>> the allocation should be valid for multiple invocations of
>>>> resctrl_arch_rmid_read().
>>>>
>>>> Add arch hooks for this allocation, which need calling before
>>>> resctrl_arch_rmid_read(). The allocated monitor is passed to
>>>> resctrl_arch_rmid_read(), then freed again afterwards. The helper
>>>> can be called on any CPU, and can sleep.
>>
>>> Looking at the error paths all the errors are silent failures.
>>
>> Yeah, I don't really expect this to ever fail. The memory arm64 needs to allocate is
>> smaller than a pointer - if that fails, I think there are bigger problems. The hardware
>> resource is something the call will wait for.
>>
>> As you note, it's hard to propagate an unlikely error back from here.
>>
>>
>>> On the 
>>> failure in mon_event_read() this could potentially be handled by setting
>>> the "err" field in struct rmid_read ... at least then the caller can print
>>> an error instead of displaying a zero count to the user.
>>
>> Sure, that covers the one a human being might see.
> 
> Right.
> 
>>> The other failures are harder to handle though.
>>
>> I don't think the silent failure is such a bad thing. For the limbo handler, no RMID moves
>> between the lists until the handler is able to make progress.
> 
> ok, so it needs to ensure that the handler is still rescheduled
> when such a failure is encountered.

Yup, the silent error occurs in __check_limbo(), and cqm_handle_limbo() will still
reschedule the worker. Similarly, for mbm_update(), mbm_handle_overflow() will still
reschedule the work.


>> For the overflow handler, its possible an overflow will get missed (I still have an
>> overflow interrupt I can use here). But I don't think this will be the biggest problem on
>> a machine that is struggling to allocate 4 bytes.
> 
> As I now (I think) better understand for MPAM it is 4 bytes of memory as well as
> reservation of a hardware resource. Could something go wrong attempting to find an
> available hardware resource that as you state later is indeed scarce? I wonder if
> it would not be helpful to at least have resctrl log an error from the
> places where it is not possible to propagate the error.

If it can't allocate a monitor, it should block until one becomes available. Errors should
never occur during normal use.

I'll add pr_warn_ratelimited() for errors returned on this path.


>>> Considering that these contexts are allocated and
>>> freed so often, why not allocate them once (perhaps in struct rdt_hw_domain?)
>>> on driver load with clear error handling?
>>
>> Because the resource they represent is scarce. You may have 100 control or monitor groups,
>> but only 10 hardware monitors. The hardware monitor has to be allocated and programmed
>> before it can be read.
> 
> I think I misunderstood what "context" is when I wrote the above. I
> was thinking about memory allocation that can be done early and
> neglected to connect the "context" to be an actual hardware resource.

Let me know if there is a better name. Obviously I had to avoid 'resource'!



Thanks,

James

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-15 17:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-28 16:42 [PATCH v5 00/24] x86/resctrl: monitored closid+rmid together, separate arch/fs locking James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 01/24] x86/resctrl: Track the closid with the rmid James Morse
2023-08-09 22:32   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-08-24 16:50     ` James Morse
2023-08-15  0:09   ` Fenghua Yu
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 02/24] x86/resctrl: Access per-rmid structures by index James Morse
2023-08-09 22:32   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-08-24 16:51     ` James Morse
2023-08-25  0:29       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 03/24] x86/resctrl: Create helper for RMID allocation and mondata dir creation James Morse
2023-08-09 22:32   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 04/24] x86/resctrl: Move rmid allocation out of mkdir_rdt_prepare() James Morse
2023-08-15  0:50   ` Fenghua Yu
2023-08-24 16:52     ` James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 05/24] x86/resctrl: Allow RMID allocation to be scoped by CLOSID James Morse
2023-08-09 22:33   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-08-15  1:22   ` Fenghua Yu
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 06/24] x86/resctrl: Track the number of dirty RMID a CLOSID has James Morse
2023-08-09 22:33   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-08-24 16:53     ` James Morse
2023-08-24 22:58       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-08-30 22:32       ` Tony Luck
2023-08-14 23:58   ` Fenghua Yu
2023-08-15  2:37   ` Fenghua Yu
2023-08-24 16:53     ` James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 07/24] x86/resctrl: Use set_bit()/clear_bit() instead of open coding James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 08/24] x86/resctrl: Allocate the cleanest CLOSID by searching closid_num_dirty_rmid James Morse
2023-08-15  2:59   ` Fenghua Yu
2023-08-24 16:54     ` James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 09/24] x86/resctrl: Move CLOSID/RMID matching and setting to use helpers James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 10/24] tick/nohz: Move tick_nohz_full_mask declaration outside the #ifdef James Morse
2023-08-09 22:34   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-08-24 16:55     ` James Morse
2023-08-25  0:43       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-09-08 15:58         ` James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 11/24] x86/resctrl: Add cpumask_any_housekeeping() for limbo/overflow James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 12/24] x86/resctrl: Make resctrl_arch_rmid_read() retry when it is interrupted James Morse
2023-08-09 22:35   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-08-24 16:55     ` James Morse
2023-08-24 23:01       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-09-08 15:58         ` James Morse
2023-09-08 20:15           ` Reinette Chatre
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 13/24] x86/resctrl: Queue mon_event_read() instead of sending an IPI James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 14/24] x86/resctrl: Allow resctrl_arch_rmid_read() to sleep James Morse
2023-08-09 22:36   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-08-24 16:56     ` James Morse
2023-08-24 23:02       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-09-08 15:58         ` James Morse
2023-09-08 20:15           ` Reinette Chatre
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 15/24] x86/resctrl: Allow arch to allocate memory needed in resctrl_arch_rmid_read() James Morse
2023-08-09 22:37   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-08-24 16:56     ` James Morse
2023-08-24 23:04       ` Reinette Chatre
2023-09-15 17:37         ` James Morse [this message]
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 16/24] x86/resctrl: Make resctrl_mounted checks explicit James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 17/24] x86/resctrl: Move alloc/mon static keys into helpers James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 18/24] x86/resctrl: Make rdt_enable_key the arch's decision to switch James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 19/24] x86/resctrl: Add helpers for system wide mon/alloc capable James Morse
2023-08-17 18:34   ` Fenghua Yu
2023-08-24 16:57     ` James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 20/24] x86/resctrl: Add cpu online callback for resctrl work James Morse
2023-08-09 22:38   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 21/24] x86/resctrl: Allow overflow/limbo handlers to be scheduled on any-but cpu James Morse
2023-08-09 22:38   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-08-24 16:57     ` James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 22/24] x86/resctrl: Add cpu offline callback for resctrl work James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 23/24] x86/resctrl: Move domain helper migration into resctrl_offline_cpu() James Morse
2023-08-09 22:39   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 24/24] x86/resctrl: Separate arch and fs resctrl locks James Morse
2023-08-09 22:41   ` Reinette Chatre
2023-08-24 16:57     ` James Morse
2023-08-18 22:05   ` Fenghua Yu
2023-08-24 16:58     ` James Morse
2023-08-03  7:34 ` [PATCH v5 00/24] x86/resctrl: monitored closid+rmid together, separate arch/fs locking Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2023-08-24 16:58   ` James Morse
2023-08-22  8:42 ` Peter Newman
2023-08-24 16:58   ` James Morse

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