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From: William Zhang <william.zhang@broadcom.com>
To: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	Linux SPI List <linux-spi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Broadcom Kernel List <bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com>
Cc: anand.gore@broadcom.com, tomer.yacoby@broadcom.com,
	dan.beygelman@broadcom.com, joel.peshkin@broadcom.com,
	jonas.gorski@gmail.com, kursad.oney@broadcom.com,
	dregan@mail.com,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/16] dt-bindings: spi: Add bcmbca-hsspi controller support
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2023 17:08:47 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adbf1347-b81b-ee5b-f016-109d25b09f81@broadcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32a464f8-6a4b-6777-9775-f17e990e0c6a@gmail.com>

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On 01/10/2023 02:18 PM, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> On 1/10/23 00:40, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>>> No, it is discouraged in such forms. Family or IP block compatibles
>>>> should be prepended with a specific compatible. There were many issues
>>>> when people insisted on generic or family compatibles...
>>>>
>>>>> Otherwise we will have to have a compatible string with chip model for
>>>>> each SoC even they share the same IP. We already have more than ten of
>>>>> SoCs and the list will increase.  I don't see this is a good 
>>>>> solution too.
>>>>
>>>> You will have to do it anyway even with generic fallback, so I don't 
>>>> get
>>>> what is here to gain... I also don't get why Broadcom should be here
>>>> special, different than others. Why it is not a good solution for
>>>> Broadcom SoCs but it is for others?
>>>>
>>> I saw a few other vendors like these qcom ones:
>>>    qcom,spi-qup.yaml
>>>        - qcom,spi-qup-v1.1.1 # for 8660, 8960 and 8064
>>>        - qcom,spi-qup-v2.1.1 # for 8974 and later
>>>        - qcom,spi-qup-v2.2.1 # for 8974 v2 and later
>>>    qcom,spi-qup.yaml
>>>        const: qcom,geni-spi
>>
>> IP block version numbers are allowed when there is clear mapping between
>> version and SoCs using it. This is the case for Qualcomm because there
>> is such clear mapping documented and available for Qualcomm engineers
>> and also some of us (although not public).
>>
>>> I guess when individual who only has one particular board/chip and is
>>> not aware of the IP family,  it is understandable to use the chip
>>> specific compatible string.
>>
>> Family of devices is not a versioned IP block.
> 
> Would it be acceptable to define for instance:
> 
> - compatible = "brcm,bcm6868-hsspi", "brcm,bcmbca-hsspi";
> 
> in which case, having a fallback compatible on the SoC family that sees 
> this IP being deployed is very useful for client programs of the DT 
> (u-boot or kernel). As long as the fallback works, we use it, the day it 
> stops and a quirk needs to be applied because SoC XYZ has a bug, match 
> the SoC XYZ compatible string.
> 
> FWIW, and feel free to rant at me, we have adopted this convention a 
> while ago for STB chips whereby we want bindings to be defined with:
> 
> <chip specific compatible>, <version of the IP>, <fallback>
> 
> and the fallback may, or may not be matched, but defining in does not 
> hurt at all, in fact it dramatically helps with the boot loader looking 
> for specific nodes because it can search for the fallback.
> 
> If the version specific compatible is not available, it does not get used.

Thanks Florian for jumping in! I was thinking to propose something with 
version info:
    brcm,bcmbca-hsspi-v1.0
    brcm,bcmbca-hsspi-v1.1

To meet STB chip convention, then it would be:
compatible = "brcm,bcm63138-hsspi", "brcm,bcmbca-hsspi-v1.0", 
"brcm,bcmbca-hsspi";
compatible = "brcm,bcm6756-hsspi", "brcm,bcmbca-hsspi-v1.1", 
"brcm,bcmbca-hsspi";

Although I am not a fan of having a chip specific compatible while we 
already have IP version,  I am okay to have it to be consistent with 
Broadcom convention. We will need to remember to update this yaml file 
whenever we have a new chip.

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-11  1:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-06 20:07 [PATCH 00/16] spi: bcm63xx-hsspi: driver and doc updates William Zhang
2023-01-06 20:07 ` [PATCH 01/16] dt-bindings: spi: Convert bcm63xx-hsspi bindings to json-schema William Zhang
2023-01-07 15:18   ` Rob Herring
2023-01-07 15:32   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-09  7:52     ` William Zhang
2023-01-09  8:48       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-06 20:07 ` [PATCH 02/16] dt-bindings: spi: Add bcmbca-hsspi controller support William Zhang
2023-01-08 14:51   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-09  8:27     ` William Zhang
2023-01-09  8:56       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-09 19:13         ` William Zhang
2023-01-10  8:40           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-10 22:18             ` Florian Fainelli
2023-01-11  1:08               ` William Zhang [this message]
2023-01-11  9:02               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-11 18:04                 ` William Zhang
2023-01-11 18:12                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-11 18:44                     ` William Zhang
2023-01-12  8:21                       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-12 19:50                         ` William Zhang
2023-01-13  7:41                           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-14  3:17                             ` William Zhang
2023-01-15 14:31                               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-11  0:59             ` William Zhang
2023-01-11  9:01               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-06 20:07 ` [PATCH 03/16] dt-bindings: spi: Add spi peripheral specific property William Zhang
2023-01-06 21:14   ` Mark Brown
2023-01-07  3:27     ` William Zhang
2023-01-07 15:38       ` Rob Herring
2023-01-09  8:06         ` William Zhang
2023-01-09 19:19           ` Mark Brown
2023-01-09 20:18             ` William Zhang
2023-01-10 22:01               ` Mark Brown
2023-01-11 19:48                 ` William Zhang
2023-01-08 14:52   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-09  8:27     ` William Zhang
2023-01-06 20:07 ` [PATCH 04/16] ARM: dts: broadcom: bcmbca: Add spi controller node William Zhang
2023-01-06 20:07 ` [PATCH 05/16] arm64: " William Zhang
2023-01-06 20:07 ` [PATCH 06/16] spi: bcm63xx-hsspi: Endianness fix for ARM based SoC William Zhang
2023-01-07  7:44   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-07 21:21   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-07 21:52   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-07 23:23   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-11  6:33   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-06 20:07 ` [PATCH 07/16] spi: bcm63xx-hsspi: Add polling mode support William Zhang
2023-01-06 21:47   ` Mark Brown
2023-01-07  3:35     ` William Zhang
2023-01-09 19:06       ` Mark Brown
2023-01-09 20:10         ` William Zhang
2023-01-10 22:49           ` Mark Brown
2023-01-11 20:13             ` William Zhang
2023-01-11 22:41               ` Mark Brown
2023-01-11 22:57                 ` William Zhang
2023-01-06 20:08 ` [PATCH 08/16] spi: bcm63xx-hsspi: Handle cs_change correctly William Zhang
2023-01-06 20:08 ` [PATCH 09/16] spi: bcm63xx-hsspi: Fix multi-bit mode setting William Zhang
2023-01-06 20:08 ` [PATCH 10/16] spi: bcm63xx-hsspi: Make dummy cs workaround as an option William Zhang
2023-01-12 18:08   ` Mark Brown
2023-01-18 23:09     ` William Zhang
2023-01-19 13:09       ` Mark Brown
2023-01-06 20:08 ` [PATCH 11/16] spi: bcm63xx-hsspi: Add prepend feature support William Zhang
2023-01-06 22:00   ` Mark Brown
2023-01-07  3:52     ` William Zhang
2023-01-09 19:31       ` Mark Brown
2023-01-09 20:43         ` William Zhang
2023-01-10 21:18           ` Mark Brown
2023-01-11 19:42             ` William Zhang
2023-01-12 16:57               ` Mark Brown
2023-01-06 20:08 ` [PATCH 12/16] spi: bcm63xx-hsspi: Add clock gate disable option support William Zhang
2023-01-06 20:08 ` [PATCH 13/16] spi: spi-mem: Allow controller supporting mem_ops without exec_op William Zhang
2023-01-06 20:08 ` [PATCH 14/16] spi: bcm63xx-hsspi: prepend: Disable spi mem dual io read op support William Zhang
2023-01-06 22:07   ` Mark Brown
2023-01-07  3:57     ` William Zhang
2023-01-06 20:08 ` [PATCH 15/16] spi: bcmbca-hsspi: Add driver for newer HSSPI controller William Zhang
2023-01-07 22:02   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-08  2:25   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-06 20:08 ` [PATCH 16/16] MAINTAINERS: Add entry for Broadcom Broadband SoC HS SPI drivers William Zhang

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