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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Nicolas Bouchinet <nicolas.bouchinet@clip-os.org>,
	Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: cl@linux.com, penberg@kernel.org, rientjes@google.com,
	iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	roman.gushchin@linux.dev, 42.hyeyoo@gmail.com,
	Xiongwei Song <xiongwei.song@windriver.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] slub: Fixes freepointer encoding for single free
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 22:22:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ae15114f-24d3-499b-9c99-ae7e098badd9@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10c9a07a-1c6d-4ea7-8c1d-03a7dc5b29d8@clip-os.org>

On 4/29/24 6:16 PM, Nicolas Bouchinet wrote:
> On 4/29/24 16:52, Chengming Zhou wrote:
>> On 2024/4/29 22:32, Nicolas Bouchinet wrote:
>>> On 4/29/24 15:35, Chengming Zhou wrote:
>>>> On 2024/4/29 20:59, Nicolas Bouchinet wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I help maintaining the Linux-Hardened patchset in which we have a slab object canary feature that helps detecting overflows. It is located just after the object freepointer.
>>>>> I've tried a patch where the freepointer is avoided but it results in the same bug. It seems that the commit 0f181f9fbea8bc7ea ("mm/slub.c: init_on_free=1 should wipe freelist ptr for bulk allocations") inits the freepointer on allocation if init_on_free is set in order to return a clean initialized object to the caller.
>>>>>
>>>> Good catch! You may need to change maybe_wipe_obj_freeptr() too,
>>>> I haven't tested this, not sure whether it works for you. :)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/mm/slub.c b/mm/slub.c
>>>> index 3e33ff900d35..3f250a167cb5 100644
>>>> --- a/mm/slub.c
>>>> +++ b/mm/slub.c
>>>> @@ -3796,7 +3796,8 @@ static void *__slab_alloc_node(struct kmem_cache *s,
>>>>    static __always_inline void maybe_wipe_obj_freeptr(struct kmem_cache *s,
>>>>                                                      void *obj)
>>>>    {
>>>> -       if (unlikely(slab_want_init_on_free(s)) && obj)
>>>> +       if (unlikely(slab_want_init_on_free(s)) && obj &&
>>>> +           !freeptr_outside_object(s))
>>>>                   memset((void *)((char *)kasan_reset_tag(obj) + s->offset),
>>>>                           0, sizeof(void *));
>>>>    }
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>> Indeed since check_object() avoids objects for which freepointer is in the object and since val is equal to SLUB_RED_ACTIVE in our specific case it should work. Do you want me to add you as Co-authored ?
>>>
>> Ok, it's great. Thanks!
> 
> Now I think of it, doesn't it seems a bit odd to only properly 
> init_on_free object's freepointer only if it's inside the object ? IMHO 
> it is equally necessary to avoid information leaking about the 
> freepointer whether it is inside or outside the object.
> I think it break the semantic of the commit 0f181f9fbea8bc7ea 
> ("mm/slub.c: init_on_free=1 should wipe freelist ptr for bulk 
> allocations") ?

Hm, AFAIU, wiping inside object prevents misuse of some buggy kernel code
that would allocate and accidentally leak prior content (including the
in-object freepointer) somewhere the attacker can read. Now for wiping the
freepointer outside the object to be useful it would have assume said
leak-prone code to additionally be reading past the allocated object size,
i.e. a read buffer overflow. That to me seems to be a much more rare
combination, and also in that case such code could also likely read even
further past the object, i.e. leak the next object's data? IOW I don't think
it buys us much additional security protection in practice?

> Thanks.
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-29 20:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-24 12:47 [PATCH] slub: Fixes freepointer encoding for single free Nicolas Bouchinet
2024-04-25  8:36 ` Chengming Zhou
     [not found]   ` <bbf2063f-54d4-43f0-84b3-1ea789470914@clip-os.org>
2024-04-25 15:14     ` Chengming Zhou
2024-04-29  8:52       ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-04-29  9:09         ` Nicolas Bouchinet
2024-04-29 12:59           ` Nicolas Bouchinet
2024-04-29 13:35             ` Chengming Zhou
2024-04-29 14:32               ` Nicolas Bouchinet
2024-04-29 14:52                 ` Chengming Zhou
2024-04-29 16:16                   ` Nicolas Bouchinet
2024-04-29 20:22                     ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2024-04-30  9:19                       ` Nicolas Bouchinet
2024-04-26  9:20 ` Xiongwei Song
2024-04-26 12:18   ` Nicolas Bouchinet
2024-04-26 13:14     ` Xiongwei Song
2024-04-29  7:55       ` Nicolas Bouchinet

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