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From: "Harry G. Coin" <hgcoin@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>,
	Dominique Martinet <asmadeus@codewreck.org>,
	linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	virtio-fs@redhat.com, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	v9fs-developer@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Virtio-fs] [PATCH] init/do_mounts.c: Add root="fstag:<tag>" syntax for root device
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 09:13:17 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <af0fc557-c90c-4343-ed0e-a3a94dc07137@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YMCPPCbjbRoPAEcL@stefanha-x1.localdomain>


On 6/9/21 4:51 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 11:35:24AM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
>> We want to be able to mount virtiofs as rootfs and pass appropriate
>> kernel command line. Right now there does not seem to be a good way
>> to do that. If I specify "root=myfs rootfstype=virtiofs", system
>> panics.
>>
>> virtio-fs: tag </dev/root> not found
>> ..
>> ..
>> [ end Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) ]
>>
>> Basic problem here is that kernel assumes that device identifier
>> passed in "root=" is a block device. But there are few execptions
>> to this rule to take care of the needs of mtd, ubi, NFS and CIFS.
>>
>> For example, mtd and ubi prefix "mtd:" or "ubi:" respectively.
>>
>> "root=mtd:<identifier>" or "root=ubi:<identifier>"
>>
>> NFS and CIFS use "root=/dev/nfs" and CIFS passes "root=/dev/cifs" and
>> actual root device details come from filesystem specific kernel
>> command line options.
>>
>> virtiofs does not seem to fit in any of the above categories. In fact
>> we have 9pfs which can be used to boot from but it also does not
>> have a proper syntax to specify rootfs and does not fit into any of
>> the existing syntax. They both expect a device "tag" to be passed
>> in a device to be mounted. And filesystem knows how to parse and
>> use "tag".
>>
>> So this patch proposes that we add a new prefix "fstag:" which specifies
>> that identifier which follows is filesystem specific tag and its not
>> a block device. Just pass this tag to filesystem and filesystem will
>> figure out how to mount it.
>>
>> For example, "root=fstag:<tag>".
>>
>> In case of virtiofs, I can specify "root=fstag:myfs rootfstype=virtiofs"
>> and it works.
>>
>> I think this should work for 9p as well. "root=fstag:myfs rootfstype=9p".
>> Though I have yet to test it.
>>
>> This kind of syntax should be able to address wide variety of use cases
>> where root device is not a block device and is simply some kind of
>> tag/label understood by filesystem.
> "fstag" is kind of virtio-9p/fs specific. The intended effect is really
> to specify the file system source (like in mount(2)) without it being
> interpreted as a block device.
>
> In a previous discussion David Gilbert suggested detecting file systems
> that do not need a block device:
> https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-fsdevel/patch/20190906100324.8492-1-stefanha@redhat.com/
>
> I never got around to doing it, but can do_mounts.c just look at struct
> file_system_type::fs_flags FS_REQUIRES_DEV to detect non-block device
> file systems?
>
> That way it would know to just mount with root= as the source instead of
> treating it as a block device. No root= prefix would be required and it
> would handle NFS, virtiofs, virtio-9p, etc without introducing the
> concept of a "tag".
>
>   root=myfs rootfstype=virtiofs rootflags=...
>
> I wrote this up quickly after not thinking about the topic for 2 years,
> so the idea may not work at all :).

I plead for the long term goal of syntax harmony between the kernel
command line and the first three fields of /etc/fstab.

Let's do one thing one way, even if it is specified more than one place.

HC





  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-09 14:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-08 15:35 [PATCH] init/do_mounts.c: Add root="fstag:<tag>" syntax for root device Vivek Goyal
2021-06-08 18:38 ` [Virtio-fs] " Harry G. Coin
2021-06-08 19:26   ` Vivek Goyal
2021-06-08 19:49     ` Harry G. Coin
2021-06-08 21:41 ` Dominique Martinet
2021-06-09  9:51 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-06-09 14:13   ` Harry G. Coin [this message]
2021-06-09 15:45   ` Vivek Goyal
2021-06-10  8:16     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-06-10  8:33       ` Dominique Martinet
2021-06-13 11:56         ` Dominique Martinet
2021-06-14 14:28           ` Vivek Goyal
2021-06-14 23:14             ` Dominique Martinet
2021-06-15 13:50               ` Vivek Goyal
2021-06-16  3:24                 ` Dominique Martinet

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