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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Cyril Hrubis <chrubis@suse.cz>
Cc: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	George Spelvin <linux@sciencehorizons.net>,
	Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	rt@linutronix.de, "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	ltp@lists.linux.it, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [LTP] [patch V2 00/20] timer: Refactor the timer wheel
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 10:27:06 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1606231024220.5839@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160622102858.GA13962@rei.lan>

On Wed, 22 Jun 2016, Cyril Hrubis wrote:
> Hi!
> > > rtbox:~ # /usr/local/ltp/conformance/interfaces/sigtimedwait/sigtimedwait_1-1.run-test
> > > Test FAILED: sigtimedwait() did not return in the required time
> > > time_elapsed: 1.197057
> > > ...come on, you can do it...
> > > rtbox:~ # /usr/local/ltp/conformance/interfaces/sigtimedwait/sigtimedwait_1-1.run-test
> > > Test PASSED
> > > 
> > > #define ERRORMARGIN 0.1
> > > ...
> > >         if ((time_elapsed > SIGTIMEDWAITSEC + ERRORMARGIN)
> > >             || (time_elapsed < SIGTIMEDWAITSEC - ERRORMARGIN)) {
> > >                 printf("Test FAILED: sigtimedwait() did not return in "
> > >                         "the required time\n");
> > >                 printf("time_elapsed: %lf\n", time_elapsed);
> > >                 return PTS_FAIL;
> > >         }
> > > 
> > > Looks hohum to me, but gripe did arrive with patch set, so you get a note.
> > 
> > hohum is a euphemism. That's completely bogus.
> > 
> > The only guarantee a syscall with timers has is: timer does not fire early.
> 
> While this is true, checking with reasonable error margin works just
> fine 99% of the time. You cannot really test that timer expires, without
> setting arbitrary margin.

Err. You know that the timer expired because sigtimedwait() returns
EAGAIN. And the only thing you can reliably check for is that the timer did
not expired to early. Anything else is guesswork and voodoo programming.

Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-23  8:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-17 13:26 [patch V2 00/20] timer: Refactor the timer wheel Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-17 13:26 ` [patch V2 01/20] timer: Make pinned a timer property Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-17 13:26 ` [patch V2 02/20] x86/apic/uv: Initialize timer as pinned Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-17 13:26 ` [patch V2 03/20] x86/mce: " Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-17 13:26 ` [patch V2 05/20] driver/net/ethernet/tile: " Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-21 18:14   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-17 13:26 ` [patch V2 04/20] cpufreq/powernv: " Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-17 13:26 ` [patch V2 06/20] drivers/tty/metag_da: " Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-17 13:26 ` [patch V2 07/20] drivers/tty/mips_ejtag: " Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-17 13:26 ` [patch V2 08/20] net/ipv4/inet: Initialize timers " Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-17 13:26 ` [patch V2 09/20] timer: Remove mod_timer_pinned Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-17 13:26 ` [patch V2 10/20] hlist: Add hlist_is_singular_node() helper Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-17 13:26 ` [patch V2 11/20] timer: Give a few structs and members proper names Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-17 13:26 ` [patch V2 12/20] timer: Switch to a non cascading wheel Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-18  9:55   ` George Spelvin
2016-06-24 10:06     ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-17 13:26 ` [patch V2 13/20] timer: Remove slack leftovers Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-17 13:26 ` [patch V2 14/20] timer: Move __run_timers() function Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-17 13:26 ` [patch V2 15/20] timer: Optimize collect timers for NOHZ Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-17 13:26 ` [patch V2 16/20] tick/sched: Remove pointless empty function Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-17 13:26 ` [patch V2 17/20] timer: Forward wheel clock whenever possible Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-17 13:26 ` [patch V2 18/20] timer: Only wake softirq if necessary Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-17 13:26 ` [patch V2 19/20] timer: Split out index calculation Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-17 13:26 ` [patch V2 20/20] timer: Optimization for same expiry time in mod_timer() Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-17 13:48 ` [patch V2 00/20] timer: Refactor the timer wheel Eric Dumazet
2016-06-17 13:57   ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-17 14:25     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-06-20 13:56       ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-20 14:46         ` Arjan van de Ven
2016-06-20 14:46           ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-20 14:49             ` Arjan van de Ven
2016-06-20 19:03         ` Rik van Riel
2016-06-21  2:48           ` Eric Dumazet
2016-06-17 14:26 ` Arjan van de Ven
2016-06-20 15:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-06-20 15:13   ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-20 15:41     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-06-22  7:37 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-06-22  8:44   ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-22  9:06     ` Mike Galbraith
2016-06-22 13:37       ` Mike Galbraith
2016-06-22 10:28     ` [LTP] " Cyril Hrubis
2016-06-23  8:27       ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2016-06-23 11:47         ` Cyril Hrubis
2016-06-23 13:58           ` George Spelvin
2016-06-23 14:10             ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-23 15:11             ` Cyril Hrubis
2016-06-23 15:21               ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-23 16:31                 ` Cyril Hrubis
2016-06-26 19:00     ` Pavel Machek
2016-06-26 19:21       ` Arjan van de Ven
2016-06-26 20:02         ` Pavel Machek

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