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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Waiman Long <waiman.long@hpe.com>, Jason Low <jason.low2@hpe.com>,
	Ding Tianhong <dingtianhong@huawei.com>,
	Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Imre Deak <imre.deak@intel.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Terry Rudd <terry.rudd@hpe.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>,
	Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v4 1/8] locking/drm: Kill mutex trickery
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2016 16:11:25 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1610081608390.5222@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161008140136.GG3142@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Sat, 8 Oct 2016, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 08, 2016 at 01:58:07PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > Hmm. I'm not a great fan of this, because that requires an conditional
> > unlock mechanism.
> > 
> >        res = trylock_recursive(lock);
> >        if (res == FAILED)
> >        	       goto out;
> >        .....
> > 
> >        if (res == SUCCESS)
> >        	       unlock(lock);
> > 
> > While if you actually keep track of recursion you can do:
> >   
> >       if (!trylock_recursive(lock))
> > 		goto out;
> > 
> >       ....
> > 
> >       unlock_recursive(lock);
> > 
> > or even:
> > 
> >      lock_recursive(lock);
> > 
> >      unlock_recursive(lock);
> > 
> > That's making lock/trylock and unlock symetric, so its obvious in the
> > source what's going on and the recursion tracking allows for better
> > debugability.
> 
> Hurm,. so I thought that in general we disliked recursive locking
> because it quickly turns in to a horrible mess.
> 
> Adding such primitives makes it 'easy' to use recursive locking and then
> where does it stop?

Well, when you add just trylock_recursive then people are going to use it
anyway no matter whether it is easy or not.

So if we decide to provide something which supports recursive locking for
mutexes then we are better off doing it with a proper set of functions and
not just a single undebugable wrapper.

Thanks,

	tglx

 

  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-08 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-07 14:52 [PATCH -v4 0/8] locking/mutex: Rewrite basic mutex Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-07 14:52 ` [PATCH -v4 1/8] locking/drm: Kill mutex trickery Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-07 15:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-07 15:58     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-07 16:13       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-07 21:58         ` Waiman Long
2016-10-08 11:58     ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-10-08 14:01       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-08 14:11         ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2016-10-08 16:42           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-09 10:38     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-18 12:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-18 12:57     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-11 11:22       ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-11 11:38         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-12 10:58           ` Ingo Molnar
2016-11-14 14:04             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-14 14:27               ` Ingo Molnar
2016-10-18 12:57     ` Chris Wilson
2016-10-07 14:52 ` [PATCH -v4 2/8] locking/mutex: Rework mutex::owner Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-12 17:59   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-10-12 19:52     ` Jason Low
2016-10-13 15:18   ` Will Deacon
2016-10-07 14:52 ` [PATCH -v4 3/8] locking/mutex: Kill arch specific code Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-07 14:52 ` [PATCH -v4 4/8] locking/mutex: Allow MUTEX_SPIN_ON_OWNER when DEBUG_MUTEXES Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-07 14:52 ` [PATCH -v4 5/8] locking/mutex: Add lock handoff to avoid starvation Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-13 15:14   ` Will Deacon
2016-10-17  9:22     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-17 18:45   ` Waiman Long
2016-10-17 19:07     ` Waiman Long
2016-10-18 13:02       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-18 12:36     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-27 13:55   ` Chris Wilson
2017-01-09 11:52   ` [PATCH] locking/mutex: Clear mutex-handoff flag on interrupt Chris Wilson
2017-01-11 16:43     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-11 16:57       ` Chris Wilson
2017-01-12 20:58         ` Chris Wilson
2016-10-07 14:52 ` [PATCH -v4 6/8] locking/mutex: Restructure wait loop Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-13 15:17   ` Will Deacon
2016-10-17 10:44     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-17 13:24       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-17 13:45         ` Boqun Feng
2016-10-17 15:49           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-19 17:34     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-24  1:57       ` ciao set_task_state() (was Re: [PATCH -v4 6/8] locking/mutex: Restructure wait loop) Davidlohr Bueso
2016-10-24 13:26         ` Kent Overstreet
2016-10-24 14:27         ` Kent Overstreet
2016-10-25 16:55           ` Eric Wheeler
2016-10-25 17:45             ` Kent Overstreet
2016-10-17 23:16   ` [PATCH -v4 6/8] locking/mutex: Restructure wait loop Waiman Long
2016-10-18 13:14     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-07 14:52 ` [PATCH -v4 7/8] locking/mutex: Simplify some ww_mutex code in __mutex_lock_common() Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-07 14:52 ` [PATCH -v4 8/8] locking/mutex: Enable optimistic spinning of woken waiter Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-13 15:28   ` Will Deacon
2016-10-17  9:32     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-17 23:21   ` Waiman Long
2016-10-18 12:19     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-07 15:20 ` [PATCH -v4 0/8] locking/mutex: Rewrite basic mutex Linus Torvalds
2016-10-11 18:42 ` Jason Low

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