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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Tony Luck <tony.luck@gmail.com>
Cc: Vikas Shivappa <vikas.shivappa@linux.intel.com>,
	X86-ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	ravi.v.shankar@intel.com, vikas.shivappa@intel.com, "Yu,
	Fenghua" <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	andi.kleen@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/21] x86/intel_rdt/cqm: Add RMID(Resource monitoring ID) management
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 08:51:59 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1707060837580.1771@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+8MBb+Ty2xDWeDXGN0qC_E=BY_Pi4eiwLug-mQ6GGD2-Vmw3A@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 5 Jul 2017, Tony Luck wrote:

> > In case that a RMID was never used on a particular package, the state check
> > forces an IPI on all packages unconditionally. That's suboptimal at least.
> >
> > We know on which package a given RMID was used, so we could restrict the
> > checks to exactly these packages, but I'm not sure it's worth the
> > trouble. We might at least document that and explain why this is
> > implemented in that way.
> 
> We only allocate RMIDs when a user makes a directory.  I don't think
> we should consider options that slow down context switch in order to
> keep track of which packages were used just to make mkdir(2) a bit faster
> in the case where we need to check the limbo list.

It's not about speeding up mkdir. It's about preventing IPIs which walk a
list of hundreds of rmid entries in the limbo list. I tested the current
pile on a BDW which has 143 RMIDs and the list walk plus the WRMSR/RDMSR
takes > 100us in IPI context. That's just crap, seriously.

> We could make the check of the limbo list less costly by using a bitmask
> to keep track of which packages have already found that the llc_occupancy
> is below the threshold. But I'd question whether the extra complexity in the
> code was really worth it.

Delegating the check to an IPI which only gets invoked when we ran out of
free RMIDs is the problem and that needs to be fixed. 

Whether we optimize it for avoiding the work on packages which did not use
the RMID can be discussed, but replacing that current approach of
delegating a full list walk to an IPI is not so much debatable.

OTOH, the set_bit operation in the context switch path on a per cpu local
variable is aside of dirtying a cacheline negligible vs. the MSR write
itself. And it burdens only the tasks which use monitoring and not the
normal and interesting non monitoring case.

Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-06  6:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-26 18:55 [PATCH V1 00/21] x86/cqm3: Resctrl based cqm Vikas Shivappa
2017-06-26 18:55 ` [PATCH 01/21] x86/perf/cqm: Wipe out perf " Vikas Shivappa
2017-06-26 18:55 ` [PATCH 02/21] x86/intel_rdt: Fix memory leak during mount Vikas Shivappa
2017-06-30 19:24   ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86/intel_rdt: Fix memory leak on mount failure tip-bot for Vikas Shivappa
2017-06-26 18:55 ` [PATCH 03/21] x86/intel_rdt/cqm: Documentation for resctrl based RDT Monitoring Vikas Shivappa
2017-06-26 18:55 ` [PATCH 04/21] x86/intel_rdt: Introduce a common compile option for RDT Vikas Shivappa
2017-06-26 18:55 ` [PATCH 05/21] x86/intel_rdt: Change file names to accommodate RDT monitor code Vikas Shivappa
2017-06-26 18:55 ` [PATCH 06/21] x86/intel_rdt: Cleanup namespace to support RDT monitoring Vikas Shivappa
2017-06-26 18:55 ` [PATCH 07/21] x86/intel_rdt/cqm: Add RDT monitoring initialization Vikas Shivappa
2017-07-02  9:14   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-07-06 21:07     ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-06-26 18:55 ` [PATCH 08/21] x86/intel_rdt/cqm: Add RMID(Resource monitoring ID) management Vikas Shivappa
2017-07-02 10:05   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-07-03  9:55     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-07-05 15:34       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-05 17:25         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-07-11 23:54       ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-07-12 20:14         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-07-05 17:59     ` Tony Luck
2017-07-06  6:51       ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2017-06-26 18:55 ` [PATCH 09/21] x86/intel_rdt: Simplify info and base file lists Vikas Shivappa
2017-07-02 10:09   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-07-06 21:09     ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-06-26 18:55 ` [PATCH 10/21] x86/intel_rdt/cqm: Add info files for RDT monitoring Vikas Shivappa
2017-06-26 18:55 ` [PATCH 11/21] x86/intel_rdt/cqm: Add mkdir support " Vikas Shivappa
2017-07-02 10:58   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-07-06 21:23     ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-06-26 18:55 ` [PATCH 12/21] x86/intel_rdt/cqm: Add tasks file support Vikas Shivappa
2017-07-02 11:01   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-07-06 21:25     ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-06-26 18:56 ` [PATCH 13/21] x86/intel_rdt/cqm: Add cpus " Vikas Shivappa
2017-07-02 11:11   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-07-06 21:26     ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-07-02 12:29   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-07-06 21:42     ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-07-07  6:44       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-07-13 18:37         ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-07-13 22:09     ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-06-26 18:56 ` [PATCH 14/21] x86/intel_rdt/cqm: Add mon_data Vikas Shivappa
2017-07-02 12:43   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-07-06 21:48     ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-07-07  6:22       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-07-11 21:17         ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-07-11 21:37           ` Luck, Tony
2017-06-26 18:56 ` [PATCH 15/21] x86/intel_rdt/cqm: Add rmdir support Vikas Shivappa
2017-07-02 13:16   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-07-06 21:49     ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-06-26 18:56 ` [PATCH 16/21] x86/intel_rdt/cqm: Add mount,umount support Vikas Shivappa
2017-07-02 13:22   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-07-06 21:58     ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-06-26 18:56 ` [PATCH 17/21] x86/intel_rdt/cqm: Add sched_in support Vikas Shivappa
2017-07-02 13:37   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-07-06 23:35     ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-06-26 18:56 ` [PATCH 18/21] x86/intel_rdt/cqm: Add hotcpu support Vikas Shivappa
2017-06-26 18:56 ` [PATCH 19/21] x86/intel_rdt/mbm: Basic counting of MBM events (total and local) Vikas Shivappa
2017-07-02 13:46   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-07-06 23:39     ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-07-07  6:47       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-26 18:56 ` [PATCH 20/21] x86/intel_rdt/mbm: Add mbm counter initialization Vikas Shivappa
2017-06-26 18:56 ` [PATCH 21/21] x86/intel_rdt/mbm: Handle counter overflow Vikas Shivappa
2017-07-02 13:57   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-07-06 23:53     ` Shivappa Vikas
2017-07-07  6:50       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-07-10 17:54         ` Luck, Tony
2017-07-11 15:22           ` Thomas Gleixner

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