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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] smp/hotplug annotations
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 15:36:11 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1709051534010.1900@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1709051034000.1900@nanos>

On Tue, 5 Sep 2017, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Sep 2017, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
> > These two patches appear to make hotplug work again without tripping lockdep.
> 
> They cover the case where the plug/unplug succeeds, but they will not work
> when a plug/unplug operation fails, because after a fail it rolls back
> automatically, so in case UP fails, it will go down again, but the
> initiator side still waits on the 'UP' completion. Same issue on down.
> 
> I think that extra lockdep magic can be avoided completely by splitting the
> completions into a 'up' and a 'down' completion, but that only solves a
> part of the problem. The current failure handling does an automated
> rollback, so if UP fails somewhere the AP rolls back, which means it
> invokes the down callbacks. DOWN the other way round.
> 
> We can solve that by changing the way how rollback is handled so it does
> not automatically roll back.
> 
>     if (callback() < 0) {
>        store_state();
>        complete(UP);
>        wait_for_being_kicked_again()
>     }
> 
> and on the control side have
> 
>     wait_for_completion(UP);
> 
>     if (UP->failed) {
>        	kick(DOWN);
> 	wait_for_completion(DOWN);
>     }
> 
> It's not entirely trivial, but I haven't seen a real problem with it yet.

Now I found one. It's the multi instance rollback. This is a nested
rollback mechanism deep in the call chain. Seperating that one is going to
be a major pain.

Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-05 13:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-05  7:52 [PATCH 0/2] smp/hotplug annotations Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-05  7:52 ` [PATCH 1/2] smp/hotplug,lockdep: Annotate st->done Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-05  7:52 ` [PATCH 2/2] smp/hotplug,lockdep: Annotate cpuhp_state Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-05 12:59   ` Mike Galbraith
2017-09-19 17:57   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-09-05 13:31 ` [PATCH 0/2] smp/hotplug annotations Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-05 13:36   ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2017-09-06 17:08     ` Peter Zijlstra

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