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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Sebastian Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>,
	Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@mellanox.com>,
	Ulrich Obergfell <uobergfe@redhat.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [patch V2 22/29] lockup_detector: Make watchdog_nmi_reconfigure() two stage
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2017 12:56:50 +0200 (CEST)
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1710031248490.2281@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171003200126.358155b7@roar.ozlabs.ibm.com>

On Tue, 3 Oct 2017, Nicholas Piggin wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 09:04:03 +0200 (CEST)
> Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 3 Oct 2017, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > > On Tue, 3 Oct 2017, Michael Ellerman wrote:  
> > > > Hi Thomas,
> > > > Unfortunately this is hitting the WARN_ON in start_wd_cpu() on powerpc
> > > > because we're calling it multiple times for the boot CPU.
> > > > 
> > > > The first call is via:
> > > > 
> > > >   start_wd_on_cpu+0x80/0x2f0
> > > >   watchdog_nmi_reconfigure+0x124/0x170
> > > >   softlockup_reconfigure_threads+0x110/0x130
> > > >   lockup_detector_init+0xbc/0xe0
> > > >   kernel_init_freeable+0x18c/0x37c
> > > >   kernel_init+0x2c/0x160
> > > >   ret_from_kernel_thread+0x5c/0xbc
> > > > 
> > > > And then again via the CPU hotplug registration:
> > > > 
> > > >   start_wd_on_cpu+0x80/0x2f0
> > > >   cpuhp_invoke_callback+0x194/0x620
> > > >   cpuhp_thread_fun+0x7c/0x1b0
> > > >   smpboot_thread_fn+0x290/0x2a0
> > > >   kthread+0x168/0x1b0
> > > >   ret_from_kernel_thread+0x5c/0xbc
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The first call is new because previously watchdog_nmi_reconfigure()
> > > > wasn't called from softlockup_reconfigure_threads().  
> > > 
> > > Hmm, don't you have the same problem with CPU hotplug or do you just get
> > > lucky because the hotplug callback in your code is ordered vs. the
> > > softlockup thread hotplug callback in a way that this does not hit?
> 
> I had the idea that it watchdog_nmi_reconfigure() being only called
> with get_online_cpus held would prevent hotplug callbacks running.
>   
> > 
> > Which leads me to the question why you need the hotplug state at all if the
> > softlockup detector is enabled. Wouldn't it make more sense to only
> > register the state if softlockup detector is turned off in Kconfig and
> > actually move it to the core code?
> 
> I don't understand what you mean exactly, but it was done to avoid
> relying on the softlockup detector at all, because it wasn't needed
> for anything else (unlike the perf lockup detector).

If the softlockup detector is enabled along with your hardlockup detector
then the current code in mainline invokes watchdog_nmi_enable(cpu), which
is a weak function and as I just noticed not implemented by powerpc. So
it's a non issue because it's not implemented.

Thanks,

	tglx

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Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-12 19:36 [patch V2 00/29] lockup_detector: Cure hotplug deadlocks and replace duct tape Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:36 ` [patch V2 01/29] hardlockup_detector: Provide interface to stop/restart perf events Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:40   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/hardlockup: " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-12 19:36 ` [patch V2 02/29] perf/x86/intel: Sanitize PMU HT bug workaround Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:40   ` [tip:core/urgent] perf/x86/intel, watchdog/core: " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-12 19:36 ` [patch V2 03/29] lockup_detector: Provide interface to stop from poweroff() Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:40   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:36 ` [patch V2 04/29] parisc: Use lockup_detector_stop() Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14  8:59   ` Helge Deller
2017-09-14 13:46     ` Don Zickus
2017-09-14 10:41   ` [tip:core/urgent] parisc, watchdog/core: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:36 ` [patch V2 05/29] lockup_detector: Remove broken suspend/resume interfaces Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:41   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 06/29] lockup_detector: Rework cpu hotplug locking Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:41   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: Rework CPU " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 07/29] lockup_detector: Rename watchdog_proc_mutex Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:42   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 08/29] lockup_detector: Mark hardlockup_detector_disable() __init Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:42   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 09/29] lockup_detector/perf: Remove broken self disable on failure Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:43   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/hardlockup/perf: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 10/29] lockup_detector/perf: Prevent cpu hotplug deadlock Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:43   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/hardlockup/perf: Prevent CPU " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 11/29] lockup_detector: Remove park_in_progress obfuscation Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 12/29] lockup_detector: Cleanup stub functions Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:44   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: Clean up " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 13/29] lockup_detector: Cleanup the ifdef maze Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:44   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: Clean up the #ifdef maze tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 14/29] lockup_detector: Split out cpumask write function Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:45   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 15/29] smpboot/threads: Avoid runtime allocation Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:45   ` [tip:core/urgent] smpboot/threads, watchdog/core: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 16/29] lockup_detector: Create new thread handling infrastructure Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:45   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 17/29] lockup_detector: Get rid of the thread teardown/setup dance Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:46   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 18/29] lockup_detector: Further simplify sysctl handling Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:46   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 19/29] lockup_detector: Cleanup header mess Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:47   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: Clean up " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 20/29] lockup_detector/sysctl: Get rid of the ifdeffery Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:47   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/sysctl: Get rid of the #ifdeffery tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 21/29] lockup_detector: Cleanup sysctl variable name space Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:47   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/sysctl: Clean up " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 22/29] lockup_detector: Make watchdog_nmi_reconfigure() two stage Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:48   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core, powerpc: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-03  0:29   ` [patch V2 22/29] lockup_detector: " Michael Ellerman
2017-10-03  6:50     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-03  7:04       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-03 10:01         ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-10-03 10:56           ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2017-10-03 11:36       ` Michael Ellerman
2017-10-03 12:13         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-03 13:20           ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-03 19:27             ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-04  5:53               ` Michael Ellerman
2017-10-05 16:17               ` Don Zickus
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 23/29] lockup_detector: Get rid of the racy update loop Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:48   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 24/29] lockup_detector/perf: Implement init time perf validation Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:48   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/hardlockup/perf: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 25/29] lockup_detector: Implement init time detection of perf Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-13 18:02   ` Don Zickus
2017-09-13 18:05     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14  5:27       ` Ingo Molnar
2017-09-14 10:49   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/hardlockup/perf: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 26/29] lockup_detector/perf: Implement CPU enable replacement Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:49   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/hardlockup/perf: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 27/29] lockup_detector: Use new perf CPU enable mechanism Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:50   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/hardlockup/perf: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 28/29] lockup_detector/perf: Simplify deferred event destroy Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:50   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/hardlockup/perf: " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-12 19:37 ` [patch V2 29/29] lockup_detector: Cleanup hotplug locking mess Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:50   ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/hardlockup: Clean up " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-13 18:06 ` [patch V2 00/29] lockup_detector: Cure hotplug deadlocks and replace duct tape Don Zickus
2017-09-14  5:27   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-09-14  8:11   ` Thomas Gleixner

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