From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751392AbeDXPBE (ORCPT ); Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:01:04 -0400 Received: from Galois.linutronix.de ([146.0.238.70]:36218 "EHLO Galois.linutronix.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751251AbeDXPBB (ORCPT ); Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:01:01 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 17:00:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Thomas Gleixner To: Genki Sky cc: John Stultz , David Herrmann , lkml , Sergey Senozhatsky , Linus Torvalds , Peter Zijlstra Subject: Re: [RFC/RFT patch 0/7] timekeeping: Unify clock MONOTONIC and clock BOOTTIME In-Reply-To: <24d89dd95ab246e98562a14be05a602e@genki.is> Message-ID: References: <2580c734d38041e984215ccc522a4f2d@genki.is> <24d89dd95ab246e98562a14be05a602e@genki.is> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (DEB 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 24 Apr 2018, Genki Sky wrote: > Sorry to have been the bearer of bad news :(. No problem. We're not shooting the messengers > Again, I just have my user hat on here. It does seem like this unifying > would have been nice to have. And even, more compliant with the POSIX > definition of MONOTONIC... Yes, that was the idea > On that note, maybe it is still worth introducing MONOTONIC_ACTIVE, > but just as an alias for MONOTONIC for now. It's also more > self-documenting. Then sometime in the future, if people switch over, > remove BOOTTIME and make MONOTONIC like BOOTTIME. Though this doesn't > help simplify the code, I know. It doesn't and it does not make applications magically make use of MONOTONIC_ACTIVE. We're in a trap here..... Thanks, tglx