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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch v3] mm, oom: fix unnecessary killing of additional processes
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:19:59 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1807201315580.231119@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9ab77cc7-2167-0659-a2ad-9cec3b9440e9@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>

On Fri, 20 Jul 2018, Tetsuo Handa wrote:

> > Absent oom_lock serialization, this is exactly working as intended.  You 
> > could argue that once the thread has reached exit_mmap() and begins oom 
> > reaping that it should be allowed to finish before the oom reaper declares 
> > MMF_OOM_SKIP.  That could certainly be helpful, I simply haven't 
> > encountered a usecase where it were needed.  Or, we could restart the oom 
> > expiration when MMF_UNSTABLE is set and deem that progress is being made 
> > so it give it some extra time.  In practice, again, we haven't seen this 
> > needed.  But either of those are very easy to add in as well.  Which would 
> > you prefer?
> 
> I don't think we need to introduce user-visible knob interface (even if it is in
> debugfs), for I think that my approach can solve your problem. Please try OOM lockup
> (CVE-2016-10723) mitigation patch ( https://marc.info/?l=linux-mm&m=153112243424285&w=4 )

The issue I am fixing has nothing to do with contention on oom_lock, it 
has to do with the inability of the oom reaper to free memory for one or 
more of several reasons: mlock, blockable mmus, ptes, mm->mmap_sem 
contention, and then the setting of MMF_OOM_SKIP to choose another victim 
before the original victim even reaches exit_mmap().  Thus, removing 
oom_lock from exit_mmap() will not fix this issue.

I agree that oom_lock can be removed from exit_mmap() and it would be 
helpful to do so, and may address a series of problems that we have yet to 
encounter, but this would not fix the almost immediate setting of 
MMF_OOM_SKIP that occurs with minimal memory freeing due to the oom 
reaper.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-20 20:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-21 21:35 [patch v3] mm, oom: fix unnecessary killing of additional processes David Rientjes
2018-07-04  1:43 ` David Rientjes
2018-07-04  2:26   ` penguin-kernel
2018-07-05 23:46 ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-06  5:39   ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-07  0:05   ` David Rientjes
2018-07-09 12:35     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-09 20:30       ` David Rientjes
2018-07-10 11:01         ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-17 21:09 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-18 20:22   ` David Rientjes
2018-07-18 21:21     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-19 14:23       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-20  8:41       ` David Rientjes
2018-07-20  9:57         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-20 20:19           ` David Rientjes [this message]
2018-07-20 20:47             ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-20 22:19               ` David Rientjes
2018-07-20 20:14         ` [patch v4] " David Rientjes
2018-07-20 20:43           ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-20 22:13             ` David Rientjes
2018-07-21  2:47               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-24 21:45                 ` David Rientjes
2018-07-24 22:31                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-24 22:51                     ` David Rientjes
2018-07-24 22:55                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-07-25  0:24                         ` David Rientjes
2018-07-24 21:44           ` [patch v5] " David Rientjes

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