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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Daniel Drake <drake@endlessm.com>
Cc: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux@endlessm.com, rjw@rjwysocki.net,
	Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Detecting x86 LAPIC timer frequency from CPUID data
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 10:57:10 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1904191042180.3174@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190419083533.32388-1-drake@endlessm.com>

On Fri, 19 Apr 2019, Daniel Drake wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 6:30 AM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> >    Time Stamp Counter/Core Crystal Clock Information (0x15):
> >       TSC/clock ratio = 168/2
> >       nominal core crystal clock = 0 Hz
> >
> >    Processor Frequency Information (0x16):
> >       Core Base Frequency (MHz) = 0x834 (2100)
> >       Core Maximum Frequency (MHz) = 0xed8 (3800)
> >       Bus (Reference) Frequency (MHz) = 0x64 (100)
> >
> > Assuming that TSC and local APIC timer run from the same frequency on these
> > modern machines.
> >
> >        2100MHz * 2 / 168 = 25MHz
> >
> > and disabling the tsc deadline timer tells me:
> >
> >   ..... calibration result: 24999
> >
> > Close enough.
> 
> I tested all the Intel SoC generations we have on hand. The assumption that
> the core crystal clock feeds the APIC seems to be consistently true.
> 
> (Please note that all the following results are done with CONFIG_HZ=250,
>  which is why the "calibration result" is 4x higher than HZ=1000 as used
>  in previous mails)
> 
> In the easy case, the low cost platforms do not support CPUID.0x16 (so no
> CPU frequency reporting), but they do tell us the core crystal clock, which
> is consistent with the APIC calibration result:

...

> And the 4 higher-end SoCs that we have available for testing all report
> crystal clock 0Hz from CPUID 0x15, but by combining the CPUID.0x16 base
> frequency with the CPUID.0x15 TSC/clock ratio, the crystal frequency can
> be calculated as you describe, and it consistently matches the APIC timer
> calibration result.

...

> Is this data convincing enough or should we additionally wait for some
> comments from Intel?

For me it's pretty convincing, but having some confirmation from Intel
wouldn't be a bad thing.
 
> I came up with the patch below. However, upon testing, I realised that, at
> least for the platforms I have in hand, only the first hunk is really needed.
> We don't need to use your magic calculation to find the crystal frequency
> because Intel already told us! native_calibrate_tsc() already hardcodes the
> crystal frequency for Kabylake, and Amber/Whiskey/Coffee also report the
> 0x8e/0x9e Kabylake model codes.

I'd rather replace these model checks with math. These tables are horrible
to maintain.

> Plus ApolloLake/GeminiLake do report the crystal frequency in CPUID.0x15
> so that is covered too.

> While looking around this code I also spotted something curious.
> In calibrate_APIC_clock() for the case where lapic_timer_frequency has been
> externally provided, we have:
> 		lapic_clockevent.max_delta_ns =
> 			clockevent_delta2ns(0x7FFFFF, &lapic_clockevent);
> 		lapic_clockevent.max_delta_ticks = 0x7FFFFF;
> 
> But in the case where we calibrate, we have:
> 	lapic_clockevent.max_delta_ns =
> 		clockevent_delta2ns(0x7FFFFFFF, &lapic_clockevent);
> 	lapic_clockevent.max_delta_ticks = 0x7FFFFFFF;
> 
> 0x7FFFFF vs 0x7FFFFFFF, is that intentional?

I don't think so. Looks like a failed copy and paste. Cc'ed Jacob, he might
know.

Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-19 19:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-17  5:28 Detecting x86 LAPIC timer frequency from CPUID data Daniel Drake
2019-04-18 13:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18 22:30   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-19  8:35     ` Daniel Drake
2019-04-19  8:57       ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2019-04-19 20:50         ` Jacob Pan
2019-04-19 20:52           ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-19 23:09             ` Jacob Pan
2019-05-09 10:34       ` [tip:x86/apic] x86/tsc: Use CPUID.0x16 to calculate missing crystal frequency tip-bot for Daniel Drake
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-05-09  5:54 [PATCH v2 1/3] x86/tsc: use " Daniel Drake
2019-05-09  5:54 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] x86/apic: rename lapic_timer_frequency to lapic_timer_period Daniel Drake
2019-05-09 10:34   ` [tip:x86/apic] x86/apic: Rename 'lapic_timer_frequency' to 'lapic_timer_period' tip-bot for Daniel Drake
2019-05-09  5:54 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] x86/tsc: set LAPIC timer period to crystal clock frequency Daniel Drake
2019-05-09  7:25 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] x86/tsc: use CPUID.0x16 to calculate missing crystal frequency Thomas Gleixner
2019-05-09  9:07   ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-03  7:49 No 8254 PIT & no HPET on new Intel N3350 platforms causes kernel panic during early boot Daniel Drake
2019-04-03 11:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-03 12:01   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-09  5:43   ` Daniel Drake
2019-04-10 12:54     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-16  5:21       ` Daniel Drake
2019-05-09 10:35   ` [tip:x86/apic] x86/tsc: Set LAPIC timer period to crystal clock frequency tip-bot for Daniel Drake
2019-06-27  8:54   ` No 8254 PIT & no HPET on new Intel N3350 platforms causes kernel panic during early boot Daniel Drake
2019-06-27 14:06     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-28  3:33       ` Daniel Drake
2019-06-28  5:07         ` Thomas Gleixner

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