From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1764599AbYD3TJA (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:09:00 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1760112AbYD3TIw (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:08:52 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:36346 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1759999AbYD3TIv (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:08:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:08:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds To: David Newall cc: David Miller , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Slow DOWN, please!!! In-Reply-To: <4818C0BF.5020002@davidnewall.com> Message-ID: References: <20080429.190352.137408408.davem@davemloft.net> <4817EF91.4080800@davidnewall.com> <20080429.211835.130816277.davem@davemloft.net> <48186E57.5070805@davidnewall.com> <4818B8A7.4000902@davidnewall.com> <4818C0BF.5020002@davidnewall.com> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (LFD 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 1 May 2008, David Newall wrote: > > I just finished telling you that I'm currently trying 2.6.25. But you > couldn't have read that with any care at all, because I also just > finished telling you that it's not the specifics of the problem I'm > having that matters, it's the systemic problems in Linux's development > process. No. What you told us was nothing like that at all. What you told us was that you totally ignored the issue I brought up, namely that development happens, and that you have the choice of stagnating or accepting it. You point to it as some "systemic problem", and I told you that it's a sign of fast development. Things change. You didn't listen, or understand. If you want systemic problems, it is your kind of "bug report" that isn't anything like a bug report. Make a real report, don't whine. Push the _report_, not your inane agenda. Talk about *technology*, not about how you wish everything revolved around you and your wishes. Linus