From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756087AbZCDAbL (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Mar 2009 19:31:11 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754603AbZCDAat (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Mar 2009 19:30:49 -0500 Received: from www.tglx.de ([62.245.132.106]:60395 "EHLO www.tglx.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753938AbZCDAar (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Mar 2009 19:30:47 -0500 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 01:30:25 +0100 (CET) From: Thomas Gleixner To: James Bottomley cc: Ingo Molnar , Jan Engelhardt , Boaz Harrosh , linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Large amount of scsi-sgpool objects In-Reply-To: <1236119990.24019.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: References: <49ACF8FE.2020904@panasas.com> <1236093718.3263.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1236097526.3263.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20090303192212.GA20705@elte.hu> <1236115544.15993.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20090303214454.GA8288@elte.hu> <1236119990.24019.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LFD 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org James, On Tue, 3 Mar 2009, James Bottomley wrote: > However, if you base a feature tree off this compromised tree, now > you're causing extra work for other maintainers who see problems > reported with this tree, and have to take the time to investigate what's > going on. Stop this nonsense. That bug stopped me and Ingo from testing code on machines with AIC7xxx controllers for quite a while. The patch sent by the author of the SCSI commit which caused the breakage in the first place (b60af5b: [SCSI] simplify scsi_io_completion()) specifically to Ingo in response to Ingo's bug report seemed to fix it and it did not explode, so it was left in the -rt origin.patch simply because I forgot about it and there was no fix in the mainline kernel which would have made it obsolete. Yes, I should have noticed the memory leak, but ... > Worse, supposing there is a genuine SCSI bug exposed by the -rt tree > (say something timing or interrupt related). So I ask the reporter to > retry with the regular kernel tree and the bug goes away. Now everyone > will think "Oh, it's just because of some SCSI crap Ingo put in his > tree". Result: the bug goes undiagnosed until it bites several people > in the field, which is an avoidable result. > > The executive summary is that your "it works for me, so I'm putting it > in my tree" attitude is damaging our quality process. So according to your executive summary the full failure of test machines due to a SCSI bug is not damaging anything. These machines are^W have been part of the quality process and stopped working due to wreckage induced by your tree in 29-rc1. The executive summary is: stop development and testing until SCSI comes up with a blessed fix. You have my full understanding that quality processing defined by SCSI has precedence over general testing. Once I'm done with cleaning up the mess caused by the crash in linus tree (w/o any unblessed patches) I'm going to fix the power supply of the AIC7xxx system to make sure it is stand by when a blessed solution pops up in the unforeseeable future. Thanks, tglx