From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933421AbZC0AmU (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:42:20 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S933399AbZC0Alz (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:41:55 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:48457 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932736AbZC0Alx (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:41:53 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:30:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds X-X-Sender: torvalds@localhost.localdomain To: Frans Pop cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, mjg@redhat.com, tytso@mit.edu, mingo@elte.hu, jack@suse.cz, akpm@linux-foundation.org, arjan@infradead.org, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, npiggin@suse.de, jens.axboe@oracle.com, drees76@gmail.com, jesper@krogh.cc, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, oleg@redhat.com, roland@redhat.com Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Make relatime default In-Reply-To: <200903270115.32071.elendil@planet.nl> Message-ID: References: <20090325235041.GA11024@duck.suse.cz> <20090326090630.GA9369@elte.hu> <20090326113705.GV32307@mit.edu> <20090326140312.GB14822@elte.hu> <20090326144707.GA6239@mit.edu> <20090326170714.GF6239@mit.edu> <20090326174956.GB7198@srcf.ucam.org> <20090326175314.GC7198@srcf.ucam.org> <20090326184838.26166549@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20090326184838.26166549@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <200903270115.32071.elendil@planet.nl> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LFD 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Frans Pop wrote: > > I guess users and distros can still elect not to set it as default, but it > still seems a bit like going from one extreme to another. Why? RELATIME has been around since 2006 now. Nothing has happened. People who think "we should leave it up to user land" lost their credibility long ago. Linus