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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 00/18] SMP: Boot and CPU hotplug refactoring - Part 1
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:47:17 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1204201540400.2542@ionos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1334928098.2463.56.camel@laptop>

On Fri, 20 Apr 2012, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

> On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 13:05 +0000, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > This first part moves the idle thread management for non-boot cpus
> > into the core. fork_idle() is called in a workqueue as it is
> > implemented in a few architectures already. This is necessary when not
> > all cpus are brought up by the early boot code as otherwise we would
> > take a ref on the user task VM of the thread which brings the cpu up
> > via the sysfs interface. 
> 
> So I was thinking about this and I think we should make that kthreadd
> instead of a random workqueue thread due to all that cgroup crap. People
> are wanting to place all sorts of kernel threads in cgroups and I'm
> still arguing that kthreadd should not be allowed in cgroups.

So your fear is that the idle_thread will end up in some random cgroup
because some illdesigned user space code decided to stick kernel
threads into cgroups.

Can we please have some sanity restrictions on this cgroup muck? I
don't care when user space creates cgroups in circles, but holding the
whole kernel hostage of this madness is going too far.

Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-20 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-20 13:05 [patch 00/18] SMP: Boot and CPU hotplug refactoring - Part 1 Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-20 13:05 ` [patch 01/18] m32r: Remove pointless function prototypes Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-28  9:01   ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-20 13:05 ` [patch 02/18] smp: Add task_struct argument to __cpu_up() Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-23  7:58   ` Jesper Nilsson
2012-04-28  9:02   ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-20 13:05 ` [patch 03/18] smp: Add generic smpboot facility Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-20 20:07   ` Yinghai Lu
2012-04-21  2:07   ` Stephen Rothwell
2012-04-28  9:04   ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-20 13:05 ` [patch 04/18] smp: Provide generic idle thread allocation Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-20 16:21   ` Sam Ravnborg
2012-04-20 18:55     ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-21  2:20   ` Stephen Rothwell
2012-04-21  2:25   ` Frank Rowand
2012-04-28  9:05   ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-20 13:05 ` [patch 05/18] x86: Add task_struct argument to smp_ops.cpu_up Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-28  9:05   ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-20 13:05 ` [patch 06/18] x86: Use generic idle thread allocation Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-28  9:06   ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-20 13:05 ` [patch 07/18] powerpc: " Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-28  9:07   ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-28 22:51     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-04-20 13:05 ` [patch 08/18] ia64: " Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-28  9:08   ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-20 13:05 ` [patch 09/18] arm: " Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-28  9:09   ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-20 13:05 ` [patch 11/18] hexagon: " Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-24 16:47   ` Richard Kuo
2012-04-28  9:10   ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-20 13:05 ` [patch 10/18] mips: " Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-28  9:10   ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-20 13:05 ` [patch 12/18] s390: " Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-23  7:09   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2012-04-28  9:11   ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-20 13:05 ` [patch 13/18] blackfin: " Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-28  9:13   ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-20 13:05 ` [patch 14/18] cris: " Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-23  7:57   ` Jesper Nilsson
2012-04-28  9:12   ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-20 13:05 ` [patch 15/18] sh: " Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-21  3:18   ` Paul Mundt
2012-04-28  9:14   ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-20 13:05 ` [patch 16/18] alpha: " Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-28  9:15   ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-20 13:05 ` [patch 17/18] parisc: " Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-28  9:16   ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-20 13:05 ` [patch 18/18] sparc: " Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-22 19:52   ` David Miller
2012-04-28  9:15   ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-20 13:16 ` [patch 00/18] SMP: Boot and CPU hotplug refactoring - Part 1 Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-20 13:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-20 13:47   ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2012-04-21  0:08     ` Suresh Siddha
2012-05-03  9:41       ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-03 23:42         ` Suresh Siddha
2012-05-03 17:43       ` [tip:smp/hotplug] smp, idle: Allocate idle thread for each possible cpu during boot tip-bot for Suresh Siddha
2012-04-20 15:42   ` [patch 00/18] SMP: Boot and CPU hotplug refactoring - Part 1 Tejun Heo
2012-04-20 15:49     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-20 15:56       ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-20 13:56 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-04-20 14:18   ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-24 18:44     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-21  1:42     ` Rusty Russell
2012-05-21  8:25       ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-22  0:53         ` Rusty Russell
2012-04-20 14:06 ` richard -rw- weinberger
2012-04-20 14:19   ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-20 14:27 ` James Bottomley
2012-04-20 17:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-20 23:11 ` Venki Pallipadi
2012-04-21  1:04 ` Frank Rowand
2012-04-21  1:55   ` Frank Rowand
2012-04-22 21:01 ` Chris Metcalf
2012-04-30  8:05 ` Santosh Shilimkar

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