From: P J P <ppandit@redhat.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, halfdog <me@halfdog.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] exec: do not leave bprm->interp on stack
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:34:30 +0530 (IST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1211201200390.5842@wniryva.cad.erqung.pbz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jKY90dsnUjLcjC43Djoe53HEAffugtaEfsBphtp7j_A7g@mail.gmail.com>
+-- On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Kees Cook wrote --+
| I don't think you're being rude at all. You're defending your solution. :)
Thank you Kees, really appreciate it.
| However, it also changes the conditions for when a module is loaded
| (i.e. 0x7f no longer triggers a module_load, so anything needing that
| would break -- I'm not sure if this really qualifies for ABI breakage,
| I don't use any obscure binfmt modules so I can't say).
Ah right.
| And, most importantly, it triggers request_module for any binary with
| unprintables that binfmt_misc may already handle (for example, the
| very common case of handling DOS MZ files, which only define 2 bytes
| as magic (MZ) and exampes I find show things like "@\x00" trailing it,
| or JAR files which are PK\x03\x04). Which means each exec of these
| kinds of files would trigger a needless request_module() call on every
| exec.
Hmmn...true.
| Both the interp-on-heap patch and this proposed ELOOP patch are needed
| to handle the case of binfmt_script and/or binfmt_misc being modules
| (first binfmt walk fails with -ENOEXEC, loads binfmt_script, retries
| loop, hits binfmt_script rewriting interp to a PE file, recurses,
| fails with -ENOEXEC, loads binfmt_misc via a modalias for PE files,
| retries loop, hits binfmt_misc rewriting interp to an ELF, recurses,
| loads ELF, happiness). Without the heap patch, we could be pointing
| into old stack (rewritten e.g. during module load or taking an
| interrupt, etc) on the loop retries. Without the ELOOP patch, the
| recursion could explode with an abusive script chain.
I see! Thanks so much for explaining Kees, I appreciate it.
Thank you.
--
Prasad J Pandit / Red Hat Security Response Team
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-11-20 7:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-24 23:20 [PATCH] exec: do not leave bprm->interp on stack Kees Cook
2012-10-25 4:16 ` Al Viro
2012-10-25 6:21 ` Kees Cook
2012-10-25 11:46 ` P J P
2012-10-25 12:03 ` Tetsuo Handa
2012-10-25 12:57 ` P J P
2012-10-25 12:09 ` Al Viro
2012-10-25 12:38 ` Al Viro
2012-10-26 17:38 ` P J P
2012-10-26 18:36 ` Al Viro
2012-10-27 10:47 ` P J P
2012-10-27 17:05 ` Kees Cook
2012-10-27 20:16 ` P J P
2012-10-28 3:32 ` Kees Cook
2012-11-06 8:10 ` P J P
2012-11-12 22:10 ` Kees Cook
2012-11-13 6:50 ` halfdog
2012-11-16 12:50 ` P J P
2012-11-16 18:00 ` Kees Cook
2012-11-18 19:04 ` P J P
2012-11-18 19:34 ` Kees Cook
2012-11-19 6:57 ` P J P
2012-11-19 20:41 ` Kees Cook
2012-11-20 7:04 ` P J P [this message]
2012-11-22 20:06 ` P J P
2012-11-23 18:43 ` P J P
2012-11-23 23:12 ` Tetsuo Handa
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.02.1211221934220.19768@wniryva.cad.erqung.pbz>
[not found] ` <CAGXu5jL8zCt5ghW4ODPL9+SyC9+mbuw=4JMUngepY5fC8pSikQ@mail.gmail.com>
2012-11-26 7:09 ` P J P
[not found] ` <CA+55aFx3LFH5Xj1OkNoy7vN5w8y5tH39MUDujKqF3BdnmYibLQ@mail.gmail.com>
2012-11-20 7:08 ` P J P
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