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From: Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>
To: Kim Phillips <kim.phillips@freescale.com>
Cc: "Woodhouse, David" <david.woodhouse@intel.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Daniel Santos <daniel.santos@pobox.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] arm: use built-in byte swap function
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 22:16:47 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1302082102380.6300@xanadu.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130208191208.2ef3d78bda71aa7b44d00d7b@freescale.com>

On Fri, 8 Feb 2013, Kim Phillips wrote:

> On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 17:47:33 -0500
> Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 8 Feb 2013, Woodhouse, David wrote:
> > 
> > > On Fri, 2013-02-08 at 15:04 -0500, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 8 Feb 2013, Woodhouse, David wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, 2013-02-07 at 18:13 +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > However, the biggest reason not to use libgcc is that we want to control
> > > > > > what gets used in the kernel - for example, no floating point, and no
> > > > > > use of 64 x 64bit division.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Which is all very sensible. But there's no particular reason we couldn't
> > > > > add a __bswap[sd]i2 to the kernel's version of libgcc if we wanted to.
> > > > 
> > > > Absolutely.
> > > 
> > > And then ARM can just set ARCH_USE_BUILTIN_BSWAP like other
> > > architectures do, right?
> > 
> > If that turns out to be beneficial over what we have now, then yes.
> > I didn't read back the whole thread to form an opinion though.
> 
> The diff below implements __bswap[sd]i2 in arch/arm/lib, and
> results in the following savings in vmlinux size:
> 
> column 1: name of defconfig
> column 2: text+data+bss, linux-next-20130207 vanilla, gcc 4.6.3
> column 3: text+data+bss, linux-next-20130207+below diff, gcc 4.6.3
> column 4: col. 3 - col. 2 (ie., -ve numbers represent savings)
> 
[...]
> imx_v6_v7_defconfig: 	7672373 	7667089 	-5284
> lart_defconfig:	2941150		2941054         -96
> mxs_defconfig: 	11091983 	11095679 	3696

The savings are good, with some impressive cases.  However the 
mxs_defconfig is completely the opposite and by far.  Any idea?

> gcc 4.7.3 runs haven't been as good across the board as gcc 4.6.3,
> however:

Not only that, but in many cases the results are wildly different given 
the same config:

> imx_v6_v7_defconfig:	7637605		7636935		-670
> lart_defconfig: 	2922550 	2926600 	4050
> mxs_defconfig: 	11071139 	11070893 	-246

The mxs_defconfig became much better while lart_defconfig regressed a 
lot.

> Haven't looked at why.

Would be a good idea since this is rather weird and gcc could benefit 
from your findings.

> In any case, some questions I have are:
> 
> (a) are the __bswap[sd]i2 implementations acceptable written in C,
> as in the diff?  I don't speak ARM asm (yet at least).  The
> generated code looks pretty optimal in both armv5 and 6+.

It looks pretty nice indeed:

__bswapsi2:
        eor     r2, r0, r0, ror #16
        mov     r1, r2, lsr #8
        bic     r3, r1, #65280
        eor     r0, r3, r0, ror #8
        bx      lr

There is no way to do better than that.  But that's true only if -Os is 
_not_ used.  With -Os we get the following output:

__bswapsi2:
        mov     r3, r0, asl #24
        and     r2, r0, #65280
        orr     r3, r3, r0, lsr #24
        orr     r3, r3, r2, asl #8
        and     r0, r0, #16711680
        orr     r0, r3, r0, lsr #8
        bx      lr

I really don't get why gcc thinks the above is shorter.  I'm saving you 
from pasting the __bswapdi2 result which is also way way worse.
That was with Linaro gcc v4.6.2.

With Sourcery gcc v4.5.1 we get:

__bswapsi2:
        stmfd   sp!, {r3, lr}
        bl      __bswapsi2
        ldmfd   sp!, {r3, pc}

This is indeed shorter, but much less useful.  So you better enforce -O2 
for this file.  And the nice thing with C code is that it is fully 
optimized with the rev instruction when compiling for ARMv6+ if it is 
ever used in that case.

> (b) would adding __bswap[sd]i2 to the kernel build need to be
> disabled on armv6+? AFAICT, gcc doesn't emit calls - even for the
> 8-byte swap, even with -Os, on armv6+.

I wouldn't bother.  That would save only 6 instructions total.  And who 
knows if some gcc flavor start calling them for some reason eventually.

> (c) testing allyesconfigs is proving to be a pain - lots of
> breakeage - other than defconfig testing, is there any more I can do?

The defconfigs provide wildly different results and that is a good 
thing for further investigation.  You may concentrate on a small 
interesting sample such as those I kept above.

With allyesconfig the good configs would cancel out the bad ones making 
the bad ones invisible.


Nicolas

  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-09  3:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-29  1:30 [RFC] arm: use built-in byte swap function Kim Phillips
2013-01-29  8:35 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-01-29 16:46   ` Woodhouse, David
2013-01-29 17:42     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-01-29 17:55       ` Woodhouse, David
2013-01-29 18:10         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-01-30 10:22           ` Woodhouse, David
2013-01-31  2:09             ` Kim Phillips
2013-01-31  6:44               ` Borislav Petkov
2013-01-31  9:28               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-31 20:59                 ` Kim Phillips
2013-01-31 21:33                   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-01-31 22:11                   ` Woodhouse, David
2013-02-01  0:37                     ` [PATCH v4] " Kim Phillips
2013-02-01 10:46                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-01  1:17                   ` [RFC] " Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-01  7:33                     ` Woodhouse, David
2013-02-06  3:04                       ` Kim Phillips
2013-02-06  9:02                         ` Woodhouse, David
2013-02-07  1:19                           ` Kim Phillips
2013-02-07 10:19                             ` Will Newton
2013-02-07 10:43                               ` Catalin Marinas
2013-02-07 18:13                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-08 17:25                               ` Woodhouse, David
2013-02-08 20:04                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-08 22:40                                   ` Woodhouse, David
2013-02-08 22:47                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-09  1:12                                       ` Kim Phillips
2013-02-09  3:16                                         ` Nicolas Pitre [this message]
2013-02-20  2:31                                           ` Kim Phillips
2013-02-20  2:38                                             ` Stephen Boyd
2013-02-20  3:17                                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-20 10:38                                               ` Woodhouse, David
2013-02-20 13:36                                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-20 13:44                                                   ` Woodhouse, David
2013-02-20 14:06                                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-20 14:53                                                       ` Woodhouse, David
2013-02-20 15:43                                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-21  3:49                                                           ` Kim Phillips
2013-02-21  4:29                                                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-21  6:52                                                               ` Kim Phillips
2013-02-21 16:40                                                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-22  2:33                                                                   ` Kim Phillips
2013-02-22  3:40                                                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-23  1:40                                                                       ` [PATCH v6] " Kim Phillips
2013-02-23  2:40                                                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-23 23:20                                                                         ` Woodhouse, David
2013-05-23 16:46                                                                           ` [PATCH v7] " Kim Phillips
2013-05-23 20:09                                                                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-05-23 23:13                                                                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-06 22:12                                                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-06 22:23                                                                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-07  0:03                                                                                 ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-10-27  2:41                                                                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-11-05 21:45                                                                               ` Kim Phillips
2013-02-21 16:37                                                               ` [RFC] " Woodhouse, David
2013-02-21 17:27                                                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-03-13 13:35                                             ` Woodhouse, David
2013-01-29 14:13 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-01-29 14:43   ` Woodhouse, David
2013-01-29 14:53 ` Rob Herring
2013-01-29 15:10   ` Woodhouse, David
2013-01-31 11:44 Woodhouse, David

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