From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751639AbdJZTGw (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Oct 2017 15:06:52 -0400 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:46526 "EHLO userp1040.oracle.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751236AbdJZTGv (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Oct 2017 15:06:51 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 21:06:29 +0200 (CEST) From: James Morris X-X-Sender: james.l.morris@localhost To: Linus Torvalds cc: John Johansen , James Bottomley , Thorsten Leemhuis , Vlastimil Babka , Seth Arnold , linux-kernel Subject: Re: regression in 4.14-rc2 caused by apparmor: add base infastructure for socket mediation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <1507003338.3174.4.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <1507007707.3082.16.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <5d57381f-e915-1b8f-7838-eba46ab89f34@suse.cz> <1508842981.3187.5.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <722a6eda-e834-30f8-bf57-ef6c596816f6@canonical.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (LFD 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 26 Oct 2017, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 8:54 PM, James Morris wrote: > > On Thu, 26 Oct 2017, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > >> I'm *very* unhappy with the security layer as is > > > > What are you unhappy with? > > We had two big _fundamental_ problems this merge window: > > - untested code that clearly didn't do what it claimed it did, and > which caused me to not even accept the main pull request > > - apparmor code that had a regression, where it took three weeks for > that regression to be escalated to me simply because the developer was > denying the regression. > > Tell me why I *shouldn't* be unhappy with the security layer? > > I shouldn't be in the situation where I start reviewing the code and > go "that can't be right". > > And I *definitely* shouldn't be in the situation where I need to come > in three weeks later and tell people what a regression is! Agreed on both counts, and sorry for these problems. -- James Morris