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From: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
To: One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tj@kernel.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	mingo@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, andi@firstfloor.org,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, pavel@ucw.cz, jirislaby@gmail.com,
	Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>, Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/21] kGraft
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:54:50 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1406251748170.15939@pobox.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140625135421.67cd5f5f@alan.etchedpixels.co.uk>

On Wed, 25 Jun 2014, One Thousand Gnomes wrote:

> > this is a repost of the second round of RFC on kGraft, the linux
> > kernel online patching developed at SUSE. This repost only widened the
> > target audience for broader review, no code change happened.
> 
> -		wait_event_freezable(khubd_wait,
> +		wait_event_freezable(khubd_wait,
>   ({ kgr_task_safe(current);
> 
> The changes are somewhat ugly with all the kgraft crap leaking into plces
> like jbd and freezer and usb. That says to me its not well isolated and
> there must be a better way of hiding that kgr stuff so we don't have to
> kepe putting more code into all the kthreads, and inevitably missing them
> or have people getting it wrong.

Tejun commented on this very issue during the first RFC submission a 
couple weeks ago. Part of his proposal was actually to take this as a good 
pretext to review the existing kernel threads, as the idea is that a big 
portion of those could easily be converted to workqueues.

It of course has its own implications, such as not being able to 
prioritize that easily, but there is probably a lot of low-hanging fruits 
where driver authors and their grandmas have been creating kthreads where 
workqueue would suffice.

But it's a very long term goal, and it's probably impractical to make 
kGraft dependent on it.

> You add instructions to various hotpaths (despite the CONFIG comment).

Kernel entry is hidden behind _TIF_WORK_SYSCALL_ENTRY and 
_TIF_ALLWORK_MASK, so it doesn't add any overhead if kGraft is not 
enabled. What other hot paths do you refer to?

> Don't get me wrong - I'd like a good working ksplice/graft !

Thanks Alan,

-- 
Jiri Kosina
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-25 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-25 11:05 [PATCH 00/21] kGraft Jiri Slaby
2014-06-25 12:54 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-06-25 15:54   ` Jiri Kosina [this message]
2014-06-26  5:50     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2014-07-02 12:04 ` kGraft to -next [was: 00/21 kGraft] Jiri Slaby
2014-07-02 12:30   ` Tejun Heo
2014-07-02 12:47     ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-07-02 13:01       ` Jiri Kosina
2014-07-02 13:30         ` Tejun Heo
2014-07-05 20:04           ` Jiri Kosina
2014-07-05 20:36             ` Tejun Heo
2014-07-05 20:49               ` Jiri Kosina
2014-07-05 21:04                 ` Tejun Heo
2014-07-05 21:06                   ` Jiri Kosina
2014-07-05 21:08                     ` Tejun Heo
2014-07-29 14:05                 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-07-02 12:47     ` Steven Rostedt
2014-07-02 16:28     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2014-07-03  0:26   ` Stephen Rothwell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-06-23 13:29 [PATCH 01/21] ftrace: Add function to find fentry of function Jiri Slaby
2014-06-23 13:51 ` [PATCH 00/21] kGraft Jiri Slaby

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