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From: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
Cc: "'Catalin Marinas'" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Matt Sealey <neko@bakuhatsu.net>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	Joao Pinto <Joao.Pinto@synopsys.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	linux-pci <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jingoo Han <jingoohan1@gmail.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: RE: framebuffer corruption due to overlapping stp instructions on arm64
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 09:46:34 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.02.1808080939180.3325@file01.intranet.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b1de49af14d941979977af07dc81e1c2@AcuMS.aculab.com>



On Wed, 8 Aug 2018, David Laight wrote:

> From: Catalin Marinas
> > Sent: 08 August 2018 13:17
> ...
> > I think hazarding is what goes wrong here, especially since with
> > overlapping unaligned addresses. However, I disagree that it is
> > impossible to implement this properly on a platform with PCIe so that
> > Normal NC mappings can be used.
> 
> I've been trying to follow this discussion...
> 
> Is the problem just that reads don't snoop/flush the write-combining buffer?

No. The pixel corruption is permanently visible on the monitor (even if 
there are no reads from the framebuffer at all). So it can't be explained 
as mishandling read-after-write hazard.

> Aligned writes that end on an appropriate boundary will leave the write
> combining buffer empty.
> But if the buffer isn't emptied the PCIe read gets ahead of the PCIe write.
> 
> ISTR even x86 requires a fence instruction in some sequence associated
> with write-combining writes.

Other x86 cores may observe wc writes out of order - but a single x86 
core is self-consistent - i.e. if you do
movl $0x00000000, (%ebx)
movl $0xFFFFFFFF, 3(%ebx)
then the byte at ebx+3 will always contain 0xFF. The core can't just 
corrupt data while doing reordering.

The problem on ARM is that I see data corruption when the overlapping 
unaligned writes are done just by a single core.

> 	David

Mikulas

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-08 13:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-02 19:31 framebuffer corruption due to overlapping stp instructions on arm64 Mikulas Patocka
     [not found] ` <CAHCPf3tFGqkYEcWNN4LaWThw_rVqT316pzLv6T7RfxwO-eZ0EA@mail.gmail.com>
2018-08-03  6:35   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03  7:16     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-03  9:41       ` Will Deacon
2018-08-03 17:09         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 17:32           ` Sinan Kaya
2018-08-03 17:33           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-03 18:25             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 20:44               ` Matt Sealey
2018-08-03 21:20                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 10:25                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 12:42                     ` Robin Murphy
2018-08-06 12:53                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 13:41                       ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-08-06 13:48                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 14:07                           ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-08-06 14:13                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 15:47                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 17:09                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 17:21                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 19:54                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 20:11                               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 20:31                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-07 16:40                                 ` Marcin Wojtas
2018-08-07 17:39                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-07 18:07                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-07 18:17                                       ` Mikulas Patocka
     [not found]                                     ` <CAPv3WKcKoEe=Qysp6Oac2C=G9bUhUQf1twSRCY+_qJ6XEC-iag@mail.gmail.com>
2018-08-08 14:10                                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 17:13                         ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-06 17:19                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:31                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-04 13:29                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 12:16                 ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 13:02                   ` David Laight
2018-08-08 13:46                     ` Mikulas Patocka [this message]
2018-08-08 14:26                       ` David Laight
2018-08-08 14:50                         ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 16:21                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 16:31                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-08 16:43                               ` David Laight
2018-08-08 18:56                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 18:37                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 11:39           ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 14:12             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 14:28               ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 18:40                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 15:01               ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-08-08 15:14                 ` Catalin Marinas
2018-08-08 16:01                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-08 18:25                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-08 21:51                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-09 15:29                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-03  7:11 ` Andrew Pinski
2018-08-03  7:53   ` Florian Weimer
2018-08-03  9:12     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2018-08-03  9:15     ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-08-03  9:29       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-03  9:37         ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-08-03  9:42         ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-08-04  0:58           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-04  1:13             ` Andrew Pinski
2018-08-04 11:04               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-05 18:33                 ` Florian Weimer
2018-08-06  8:02                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06  8:10                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 10:31                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 10:37                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 10:42                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 10:48                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 12:09                               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 12:19                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 12:22                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-07 14:14                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-07 14:40                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-08 19:15                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 11:19                         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-08-06 11:29                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-06 14:26                   ` Tulio Magno Quites Machado Filho
2018-08-05 21:51                 ` Pavel Machek
2018-08-06 14:30                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 11:24         ` David Laight
2018-08-03 12:04           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 13:04             ` David Laight
2018-08-05 14:36               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-06 10:18                 ` David Laight
2018-08-07 14:07                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-07 14:33                     ` David Laight
2018-08-08 14:21                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 13:20     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 13:31   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-08-03 14:17     ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-08-05 21:36   ` Pavel Machek
2018-08-06  8:04     ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-08-06  8:44       ` Pavel Machek
2018-08-06  9:11         ` Ard Biesheuvel

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