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From: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Jade Alglave <j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk>,
	Luc Maranget <luc.maranget@inria.fr>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Lustig <dlustig@nvidia.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add a read memory barrier to wait_on_buffer
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2022 09:41:02 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.02.2207310920390.6506@file01.intranet.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMj1kXFYRNrP2k8yppgfdKg+CxWeYfHTbzLBuyBqJ9UVAR_vaQ@mail.gmail.com>



On Sun, 31 Jul 2022, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:

> This has little to do with speculation, so better to drop this S bomb
> from your commit message. This is about concurrency and weak memory
> ordering.

Yes.

> This doesn't seem like a very robust fix to me, tbh - I suppose this
> makes the symptom you encountered go away, but the underlying issue
> remains afaict.
> 
> Given that the lock and uptodate fields etc are just bits in a
> bitfield, wouldn't it be better to use cmpxchg() with acquire/release
> semantics (as appropriate) to manage these bits?

The kernel already uses clear_bit_unlock, test_and_set_bit_lock and 
wait_on_bit_lock_io to manage the BH_Lock bit - and they have 
acquire/release semantics.

The only problem is that test_bit doesn't provide any memory barriers. 
Should we add the barrier to buffer_locked() instead of wait_on_buffer()? 
Perhaps it would fix more bugs - in reiserfs, there's this piece of code:

                if (buffer_locked(bh)) {
                        spin_unlock(lock);
                        wait_on_buffer(bh);
                        spin_lock(lock);
                }
                if (!buffer_uptodate(bh)) {
                        ret = -EIO;
                }

or this:
                if (buffer_locked(bh)) {
                        int depth;
                        PROC_INFO_INC(sb, scan_bitmap.wait);
                        depth = reiserfs_write_unlock_nested(sb);
                        __wait_on_buffer(bh);
                        reiserfs_write_lock_nested(sb, depth);
                }
                BUG_ON(!buffer_uptodate(bh));
                BUG_ON(atomic_read(&bh->b_count) == 0);

That assumes that buffer_locked provides a barrier.

Mikulas


  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-31 13:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-31 11:43 [PATCH] Add a read memory barrier to wait_on_buffer Mikulas Patocka
2022-07-31 12:00 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-07-31 13:41   ` Mikulas Patocka [this message]
2022-07-31 15:08     ` [PATCH v2] make buffer_locked provide an acquire semantics Mikulas Patocka
2022-07-31 16:51       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-31 17:30         ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-07-31 22:48           ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-01  3:20             ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-01 15:41           ` Will Deacon
2022-08-01 19:20             ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-02  8:54               ` Will Deacon
2022-08-02 13:49                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-02 15:29                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-07-31 20:39         ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-07-31 20:40           ` [PATCH v3 1/2] wait_bit: do read barrier after testing a bit Mikulas Patocka
2022-07-31 20:57             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-01 10:40               ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-01 10:43                 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] change buffer_locked, so that it has acquire semantics Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-01 14:37                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-01 15:01                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-05  3:22                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-07 11:37                         ` [PATCH v5] add barriers to buffer functions Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-07 14:50                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-08 14:26                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-08 14:40                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-08 14:57                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-08 15:31                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-08 15:39                                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-09 18:32                                     ` [PATCH v6] add barriers to buffer_uptodate and set_buffer_uptodate Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-09 19:44                                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-09 22:06                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-01 10:42               ` [PATCH v4 1/2] introduce test_bit_acquire and use it in wait_on_bit Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-01 15:54                 ` Will Deacon
2022-08-01 16:12                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-01 18:17                     ` Boqun Feng
2022-08-02  8:00                       ` David Laight
2022-08-02  8:40                     ` Will Deacon
2022-08-02 11:38                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-02 13:36                         ` Will Deacon
2022-08-02 15:57                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-01  0:27             ` [PATCH v3 1/2] wait_bit: do read barrier after testing a bit Alan Stern
2022-07-31 20:43           ` [PATCH v3 2/2] make buffer_locked provide an acquire semantics Mikulas Patocka
2022-07-31 20:51             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-31 22:14             ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-07-31 22:31               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-07-31 22:48                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-07-31 20:46           ` [PATCH v2] " Linus Torvalds

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