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From: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
To: "Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Al Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Matthew Garrett" <mjg59@google.com>,
	"Michael Kerrisk" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	"Mickaël Salaün" <mickael.salaun@ssi.gouv.fr>,
	"Mimi Zohar" <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Philippe Trébuchet" <philippe.trebuchet@ssi.gouv.fr>,
	"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
	"Thibaut Sautereau" <thibaut.sautereau@ssi.gouv.fr>,
	"Vincent Strubel" <vincent.strubel@ssi.gouv.fr>,
	"Yves-Alexis Perez" <yves-alexis.perez@ssi.gouv.fr>,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 0/5] Add support for O_MAYEXEC
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 06:51:53 +1100 (AEDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.21.1812130642250.29507@namei.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181212081712.32347-1-mic@digikod.net>

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On Wed, 12 Dec 2018, Mickaël Salaün wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The goal of this patch series is to control script interpretation.  A
> new O_MAYEXEC flag used by sys_open() is added to enable userland script
> interpreter to delegate to the kernel (and thus the system security
> policy) the permission to interpret scripts or other files containing
> what can be seen as commands.
> 
> The security policy is the responsibility of an LSM.  A basic
> system-wide policy is implemented with Yama and configurable through a
> sysctl.

If you're depending on the script interpreter to flag that the user may 
execute code, this seems to be equivalent in security terms to depending 
on the user.  e.g. what if the user uses ptrace and clears O_MAYEXEC?

 



-- 
James Morris
<jmorris@namei.org>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-12-12 19:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-12  8:17 [RFC PATCH v1 0/5] Add support for O_MAYEXEC Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12  8:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/5] fs: Add support for an O_MAYEXEC flag on sys_open() Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 14:43   ` Jan Kara
2018-12-12 17:09     ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 20:42     ` Mimi Zohar
2018-12-13  9:47     ` Matthew Bobrowski
2018-12-13 14:23       ` Mickaël Salaün
2019-04-15 18:47     ` Steve Grubb
2019-04-16 11:49       ` Florian Weimer
2019-04-16 15:34         ` Steve Grubb
2019-04-17 10:01           ` Florian Weimer
2019-04-17 15:04             ` Mickaël Salaün
2019-04-17 14:55       ` Mickaël Salaün
2019-08-04 23:55     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-08-06 16:40       ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12  8:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/5] fs: Add a MAY_EXECMOUNT flag to infer the noexec mount propertie Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12  8:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/5] Yama: Enforces noexec mounts or file executability through O_MAYEXEC Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 14:28   ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 17:09   ` Jann Horn
2018-12-13 14:49     ` Mickaël Salaün
2019-01-03 11:17       ` Jann Horn
2019-01-08 13:29         ` Mickaël Salaün
2019-01-08 23:30           ` Kees Cook
2019-01-09 13:41             ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12  8:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/5] selftest/yama: Add tests for O_MAYEXEC enforcing Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12  8:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 5/5] doc: Add documentation for Yama's open_mayexec_enforce Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/5] Add support for O_MAYEXEC Jordan Glover
2018-12-12 17:01   ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 19:51 ` James Morris [this message]
2018-12-12 20:13   ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-12 23:40     ` James Morris
2018-12-13  5:13       ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-13 14:57         ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-13  3:02 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-12-13  5:22   ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-13 11:04   ` Mimi Zohar
2018-12-13 11:26     ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-13 12:16       ` Mimi Zohar
2018-12-13 12:16     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-12-13 15:17   ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-13 17:13     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-12-13 17:36       ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-13 17:44         ` Matthew Wilcox

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