From: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: "Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Al Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
"Matthew Garrett" <mjg59@google.com>,
"Michael Kerrisk" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
"Mickaël Salaün" <mickael.salaun@ssi.gouv.fr>,
"Mimi Zohar" <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
"Philippe Trébuchet" <philippe.trebuchet@ssi.gouv.fr>,
"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
"Thibaut Sautereau" <thibaut.sautereau@ssi.gouv.fr>,
"Vincent Strubel" <vincent.strubel@ssi.gouv.fr>,
"Yves-Alexis Perez" <yves-alexis.perez@ssi.gouv.fr>,
kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 0/5] Add support for O_MAYEXEC
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 10:40:32 +1100 (AEDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.21.1812131039400.7600@namei.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lg4upkpv.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com>
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * James Morris:
>
> > If you're depending on the script interpreter to flag that the user may
> > execute code, this seems to be equivalent in security terms to depending
> > on the user. e.g. what if the user uses ptrace and clears O_MAYEXEC?
>
> The argument I've heard is this: Using ptrace (and adding the +x
> attribute) are auditable events.
I guess you could also preload a modified libc which strips the flag.
--
James Morris
<jmorris@namei.org>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-12-12 23:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-12-12 8:17 [RFC PATCH v1 0/5] Add support for O_MAYEXEC Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 8:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/5] fs: Add support for an O_MAYEXEC flag on sys_open() Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 14:43 ` Jan Kara
2018-12-12 17:09 ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 20:42 ` Mimi Zohar
2018-12-13 9:47 ` Matthew Bobrowski
2018-12-13 14:23 ` Mickaël Salaün
2019-04-15 18:47 ` Steve Grubb
2019-04-16 11:49 ` Florian Weimer
2019-04-16 15:34 ` Steve Grubb
2019-04-17 10:01 ` Florian Weimer
2019-04-17 15:04 ` Mickaël Salaün
2019-04-17 14:55 ` Mickaël Salaün
2019-08-04 23:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-08-06 16:40 ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 8:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/5] fs: Add a MAY_EXECMOUNT flag to infer the noexec mount propertie Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 8:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/5] Yama: Enforces noexec mounts or file executability through O_MAYEXEC Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 14:28 ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 17:09 ` Jann Horn
2018-12-13 14:49 ` Mickaël Salaün
2019-01-03 11:17 ` Jann Horn
2019-01-08 13:29 ` Mickaël Salaün
2019-01-08 23:30 ` Kees Cook
2019-01-09 13:41 ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 8:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/5] selftest/yama: Add tests for O_MAYEXEC enforcing Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 8:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 5/5] doc: Add documentation for Yama's open_mayexec_enforce Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 16:29 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/5] Add support for O_MAYEXEC Jordan Glover
2018-12-12 17:01 ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-12 19:51 ` James Morris
2018-12-12 20:13 ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-12 23:40 ` James Morris [this message]
2018-12-13 5:13 ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-13 14:57 ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-13 3:02 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-12-13 5:22 ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-13 11:04 ` Mimi Zohar
2018-12-13 11:26 ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-13 12:16 ` Mimi Zohar
2018-12-13 12:16 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-12-13 15:17 ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-13 17:13 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-12-13 17:36 ` Mickaël Salaün
2018-12-13 17:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
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