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From: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v9 0/3] Add introspect_access(2) (was O_MAYEXEC)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 10:28:52 +1000 (AEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.21.2009121019050.17638@namei.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200910184033.GX6583@casper.infradead.org>

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On Thu, 10 Sep 2020, Matthew Wilcox wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 08:38:21PM +0200, Mickaël Salaün wrote:
> > There is also the use case of noexec mounts and file permissions. From
> > user space point of view, it doesn't matter which kernel component is in
> > charge of defining the policy. The syscall should then not be tied with
> > a verification/integrity/signature/appraisal vocabulary, but simply an
> > access control one.
> 
> permission()?
> 

The caller is not asking the kernel to grant permission, it's asking 
"SHOULD I access this file?"

The caller doesn't know, for example, if the script file it's about to 
execute has been signed, or if it's from a noexec mount. It's asking the 
kernel, which does know. (Note that this could also be extended to reading 
configuration files).

How about: should_faccessat ?

-- 
James Morris
<jmorris@namei.org>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-09-12  0:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-10 16:46 [RFC PATCH v9 0/3] Add introspect_access(2) (was O_MAYEXEC) Mickaël Salaün
2020-09-10 17:04 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-10 17:21   ` Mickaël Salaün
2020-09-10 17:47     ` Mickaël Salaün
2020-09-10 18:08     ` Mimi Zohar
2020-09-10 18:38       ` Mickaël Salaün
2020-09-10 18:40         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-10 20:00           ` Al Viro
2020-09-10 20:05             ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-11 12:16               ` Mickaël Salaün
2020-09-11 14:15               ` Igor Zhbanov
2020-09-12  0:28           ` James Morris [this message]
2020-09-14 16:43             ` Mickaël Salaün
     [not found] ` <20200910164612.114215-3-mic@digikod.net>
2020-09-15 13:32   ` [RFC PATCH v9 2/3] arch: Wire up introspect_access(2) Arnd Bergmann

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