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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Yuanhan Liu <yuanhan.liu@linux.intel.com>,
	Bob Liu <bob.liu@oracle.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux-FSDevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Shrinkers and proportional reclaim
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 14:17:59 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1405271406520.4317@eggly.anvils> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140527023751.GB8554@dastard>

On Tue, 27 May 2014, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 02:44:29PM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > 
> > [PATCH 4/3] fs/superblock: Avoid counting without __GFP_FS
> > 
> > Don't waste time counting objects in super_cache_count() if no __GFP_FS:
> > super_cache_scan() would only back out with SHRINK_STOP in that case.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
> 
> While you might think that's a good thing, it's not.  The act of
> shrinking is kept separate from the accounting of how much shrinking
> needs to take place.  The amount of work the shrinker can't do due
> to the reclaim context is deferred until the shrinker is called in a
> context where it can do work (eg. kswapd)
> 
> Hence not accounting for work that can't be done immediately will
> adversely impact the balance of the system under memory intensive
> filesystem workloads. In these worklaods, almost all allocations are
> done in the GFP_NOFS or GFP_NOIO contexts so not deferring the work
> will will effectively stop superblock cache reclaim entirely....

Thanks for filling me in on that.  At first I misunderstood you,
and went off looking in the wrong direction.  Now I see what you're
referring to: the quantity that shrink_slab_node() accumulates in
and withdraws from shrinker->nr_deferred[nid].

Right: forget my super_cache_count() __GFP_FS patch!

Hugh

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-27 21:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1400749779-24879-1-git-send-email-mgorman@suse.de>
     [not found] ` <1400749779-24879-2-git-send-email-mgorman@suse.de>
2014-05-22 15:52   ` [PATCH 1/3] fs/superblock: Unregister sb shrinker before ->kill_sb() Rik van Riel
     [not found] ` <1400749779-24879-3-git-send-email-mgorman@suse.de>
2014-05-22 15:59   ` [PATCH 2/3] fs/superblock: Avoid locking counting inodes and dentries before reclaiming them Rik van Riel
     [not found] ` <1400749779-24879-4-git-send-email-mgorman@suse.de>
2014-05-22 16:04   ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: vmscan: Use proportional scanning during direct reclaim and full scan at DEF_PRIORITY Rik van Riel
2014-05-22 16:14 ` [PATCH 0/3] Shrinkers and proportional reclaim Yuanhan Liu
2014-05-22 16:30   ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-23  2:43     ` Yuanhan Liu
2014-05-22 17:22 ` Tim Chen
2014-05-26 21:44 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-05-27  2:37   ` Dave Chinner
2014-05-27 21:17     ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2014-05-27 23:02       ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-05-27 23:19         ` Hugh Dickins
2014-05-28  1:37           ` Dave Chinner

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