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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Stephen Smalley <stephen.smalley@gmail.com>,
	Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>,
	Morten Stevens <mstevens@fedoraproject.org>,
	Eric Sandeen <esandeen@redhat.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Daniel Wagner <wagi@monom.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, selinux <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: mm: shmem_zero_setup skip security check and lockdep conflict with XFS
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 00:48:14 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1507100013270.5082@eggly.anvils> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <559E7023.8040203@tycho.nsa.gov>

On Thu, 9 Jul 2015, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> On 07/09/2015 04:23 AM, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> >> On 07/08/2015 09:13 AM, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> >>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com> wrote:
> >>>> It appears that, at some point last year, XFS made directory handling
> >>>> changes which bring it into lockdep conflict with shmem_zero_setup():
> >>>> it is surprising that mmap() can clone an inode while holding mmap_sem,
> >>>> but that has been so for many years.
> >>>>
> >>>> Since those few lockdep traces that I've seen all implicated selinux,
> >>>> I'm hoping that we can use the __shmem_file_setup(,,,S_PRIVATE) which
> >>>> v3.13's commit c7277090927a ("security: shmem: implement kernel private
> >>>> shmem inodes") introduced to avoid LSM checks on kernel-internal inodes:
> >>>> the mmap("/dev/zero") cloned inode is indeed a kernel-internal detail.
> >>>>
> >>>> This also covers the !CONFIG_SHMEM use of ramfs to support /dev/zero
> >>>> (and MAP_SHARED|MAP_ANONYMOUS).  I thought there were also drivers
> >>>> which cloned inode in mmap(), but if so, I cannot locate them now.
> >>>
> >>> This causes a regression for SELinux (please, in the future, cc
> >>> selinux list and Paul Moore on SELinux-related changes).  In
> > 
> > Surprised and sorry about that, yes, I should have Cc'ed.
> > 
> >>> particular, this change disables SELinux checking of mprotect
> >>> PROT_EXEC on shared anonymous mappings, so we lose the ability to
> >>> control executable mappings.  That said, we are only getting that
> >>> check today as a side effect of our file execute check on the tmpfs
> >>> inode, whereas it would be better (and more consistent with the
> >>> mmap-time checks) to apply an execmem check in that case, in which
> >>> case we wouldn't care about the inode-based check.  However, I am
> >>> unclear on how to correctly detect that situation from
> >>> selinux_file_mprotect() -> file_map_prot_check(), because we do have a
> >>> non-NULL vma->vm_file so we treat it as a file execute check.  In
> >>> contrast, if directly creating an anonymous shared mapping with
> >>> PROT_EXEC via mmap(...PROT_EXEC...),  selinux_mmap_file is called with
> >>> a NULL file and therefore we end up applying an execmem check.
> > 
> > If you're willing to go forward with the change, rather than just call
> > for an immediate revert of it, then I think the right way to detect
> > the situation would be to check IS_PRIVATE(file_inode(vma->vm_file)),
> > wouldn't it?
> 
> That seems misleading and might trigger execmem checks on non-shmem
> inodes.  S_PRIVATE was originally introduced for fs-internal inodes that
> are never directly exposed to userspace, originally for reiserfs xattr
> inodes (reiserfs xattrs are internally implemented as their own files
> that are hidden from userspace) and later also applied to anon inodes.
> It would be better if we had an explicit way of testing that we are
> dealing with an anonymous shared mapping in selinux_file_mprotect() ->
> file_map_prot_check().

But how would any of those original S_PRIVATE inodes arrive at
selinux_file_mprotect()?  Now we have added the anon shared mmap case
which can arrive there, but the S_PRIVATE check seems just the right
tool for the job of distinguishing those from the user-visible inodes.

I don't see how adding some other flag for this case would be better
- though certainly I can see that adding an "anon shared shmem"
comment on its use in that check would be helpful.

Or is there some further difficulty in this use of S_PRIVATE, beyond
the mprotect case that you've mentioned?  Unless there is some further
difficulty, duplicating all the code relating to S_PRIVATE for a
differently named flag seems counter-productive to me.

(There is a bool shmem_mapping(mapping) that could be used to confirm
that the inode you're looking at indeed belongs to shmem; but of
course that would say yes on all the user-visible shmem inodes too,
so it wouldn't be a useful test on its own, and I don't see that
adding it to an S_PRIVATE test would add any real value.)

Probably you were hoping that there's already some distinguishing
feature of anon shared shmem inodes that you could check: I can't
think of one offhand, beyond S_PRIVATE: if there is another,
it would be accidental.

Hugh

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-10  7:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-14 16:48 mm: shmem_zero_setup skip security check and lockdep conflict with XFS Hugh Dickins
2015-06-15  6:09 ` Daniel Wagner
2015-06-16 20:27   ` Hugh Dickins
2015-06-17 11:45   ` Morten Stevens
2015-06-18  0:22     ` Hugh Dickins
2015-07-22 12:46     ` Morten Stevens
2015-07-22 21:07       ` Stephen Smalley
2015-07-08 13:13 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-07-08 16:37   ` Stephen Smalley
2015-07-08 20:37     ` Morten Stevens
2015-07-09  8:23     ` Hugh Dickins
2015-07-09 12:59       ` Stephen Smalley
2015-07-10  7:48         ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2015-07-10 13:09           ` Stephen Smalley

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