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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: "J. R. Okajima" <hooanon05g@gmail.com>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	"zhengbin (A)" <zhengbin13@huawei.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, houtao1@huawei.com,
	yi.zhang@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tmpfs: use ida to get inode number
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 12:07:43 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1911211154090.1697@eggly.anvils> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32188.1574336426@jrobl>

On Thu, 21 Nov 2019, J. R. Okajima wrote:
> Hugh Dickins:
> > Internally (in Google) we do rely on good tmpfs inode numbers more
> > than on those of other get_next_ino() filesystems, and carry a patch
> > to mm/shmem.c for it to use 64-bit inode numbers (and separate inode
> > number space for each superblock) - essentially,
> >
> > =09ino =3D sbinfo->next_ino++;
> > =09/* Avoid 0 in the low 32 bits: might appear deleted */
> > =09if (unlikely((unsigned int)ino =3D=3D 0))
> > =09=09ino =3D sbinfo->next_ino++;
> 
> I agree with that "per superblock inum space", but I don't see your
> point.  How can you manage it fully?  I mean how can you decide whether
> the new inum is in use or not?
> For example,
> - you create a file which is assigned inum#10.
> - you or other people create and unlink over and over on the same tmpfs.
> - then sbinfo->next_ino will become zero, skipped, ok.
> - and then it will be 10.
> I don't think you want to share the same inum by two inodes.

64 bits. I haven't done the arithmetic to work out the amusing number,
but zhengbin mentioned the script taking 10 days to duplicate an inode
number in 32 bits, so: a larger number of years than I need to care about.

> 
> Moreover, SysV SHM uses tmpfs and shmget(2) overwrite inum internally.
> It will be another seed of a similar problem.

I was totally ignorant of that peculiarity in ipc/shm.c, thanks for
alerting me to it.  But it doesn't affect what we're doing in tmpfs,
and apparently suits the users of SysV SHM: I don't see any need to
worry about it.

Hugh

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-21 20:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-20 14:23 [PATCH] tmpfs: use ida to get inode number zhengbin
2019-11-20 15:45 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-11-21  2:36   ` zhengbin (A)
2019-11-21  4:52     ` Hugh Dickins
2019-11-21  6:45       ` zhengbin (A)
2019-11-21 19:53         ` Hugh Dickins
2019-11-22  1:23           ` zhengbin (A)
2019-11-22 22:13             ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-11-23  2:16               ` zhengbin (A)
2019-11-23  2:33                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-11-23  4:54                   ` Al Viro
2019-12-01  8:44               ` zhengbin (A)
2019-11-21 11:40       ` J. R. Okajima
2019-11-21 20:07         ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2019-11-21  4:31   ` Al Viro

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