From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1760553Ab0I1BpM (ORCPT ); Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:45:12 -0400 Received: from www.telegraphics.com.au ([204.15.192.19]:60613 "EHLO mail.telegraphics.com.au" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757688Ab0I1BpK (ORCPT ); Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:45:10 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 413 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:45:10 EDT Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 11:37:57 +1000 (EST) From: Finn Thain To: "Justin P. Mattock" cc: Joe Perches , "John W. Linville" , trivial@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, "Maciej W. Rozycki" , Geert Uytterhoeven , Randy Dunlap , Matt Turner , Dimitry Torokhov , Mike Frysinger Subject: Re: [RFC v4]update broken web addresses in the kernel. In-Reply-To: <4CA0CB0F.3060303@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <1285525875-9920-1-git-send-email-justinmattock@gmail.com> <20100927151005.GC11086@tuxdriver.com> <1285603383.1732.106.camel@Joe-Laptop> <4CA0CB0F.3060303@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (OSX 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 27 Sep 2010, Justin P. Mattock wrote: > On 09/27/2010 09:03 AM, Joe Perches wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-09-27 at 11:10 -0400, John W. Linville wrote: > > > On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 11:31:15AM -0700, Justin P. Mattock wrote: > > > > Below is an updated patch from the original fixing broken web > > > > addresses in the kernel. Thanks for all the help and info on this > > > > to everybody.. Hopefully I didnt miss any of them(if so let me > > > > know, and I'll resend). > > > Changing a URL for a relocated page is one thing, but removing links > > > isn't necessarily a great idea. Even if the site is technically > > > gone, it may be possible to find information e.g through the > > > Internet Archive Wayback Machine. > > > > Perhaps it'd be better to scrape the contents of the various web > > pages, collect them somewhere like wiki.kernel.org and encourage > > others to put new contributions in that site. The copyright problem aside, this might be a good idea for material not already archived but I don't think it makes sense to start a new archive when archive.org (or other) has the information. And which version(s) do you scrape? I discussed some problems with changing URLs in another thread: http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/9/22/22 Anyway, without knowing what future archive(s) would be available or relevant to any given URL in the future, I think the best we might do is a "Retrieved on YYYY-MM-DD" qualification for new URLs. > > > yeah I think somebody was saying something about having a separate file, > with all the web addresses in them or something...In any case, up to you > guys.. I don't see how moving the addresses would help. And would it not make the information harder to find? Finn > > Justin P. Mattock >