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From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.com>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 11:54:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b0bb3179-6bf5-3a85-9567-b0a73e1c3e9d@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKMK7uGvgttqL_RoXumd0F4w8UMqwaVODaMWnOZz5weSFzDJ2A@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/7/18 11:04 AM, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 11:36 PM James Bottomley
> <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com> wrote:
>>
>> From 4a614e9440148894207bef5bf69e74071baceb3b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
>> From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
>> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 14:21:56 -0700
>> Subject: [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email
>>  addresses
>>
>> The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers publishing
>> private information such as email addresses unacceptable behaviour.  Since
>> the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of the patch
>> process, add an exception clause for email addresses ordinarily collected by
>> the project to correct this ambiguity.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
>> ---
>>  Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst | 2 +-
>>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst b/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst
>> index ab7c24b5478c..aa40e34e7785 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst
>> +++ b/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst
>> @@ -31,7 +31,7 @@ Examples of unacceptable behavior by participants include:
>>  * Trolling, insulting/derogatory comments, and personal or political attacks
>>  * Public or private harassment
>>  * Publishing others’ private information, such as a physical or electronic
>> -  address, without explicit permission
>> +  address not ordinarily collected by the project, without explicit permission
>>  * Other conduct which could reasonably be considered inappropriate in a
>>    professional setting
> 
> We've discussed this a bit with freedesktop.org people a while ago,
> both from a CoC and privacy regulations pov, and we concluded that
> attaching random people's emails in Reported-by: and similar lines,
> without their consent, is indeed a problem. Bugzilla is rather
> problematic in this way, since it looks like it's protecting your
> email address and keeping it private, but then you can still just grab
> it from the bugzilla emails without first asking for permission.
> That's one of the reasons why fd.o admins want to retire Bugzilla in
> favour of gitlab issues (where this is handled a lot more strictly).
> 
> What we discussed in the older thread here on ksummit-discuss is
> making it clear that email addresses sent to public mailing lists are
> considered public information, which I think is worth clarifying. But
> what you're excempting here is anything collected without permission
> in the past, which I don't think is a good wording. I've definitely
> been skimping on the rules here in the past. At least in my
> understanding of the legal situation, if you get a bug report through
> a private channel, or at least a channel that hides private address
> information (like Bugzilla does, albeit sloppily), then you do have to
> ask for explicit consent to publishing that information.

That is my interpretation, too.

And it even says so in Documentation/submitting-patches.rst, do I don't
we need to clarify it further.

Cheers,

Hannes

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-07  9:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-06 21:35 [PATCH 0/2] code of conduct fixes James Bottomley
2018-10-06 21:36 ` [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses James Bottomley
2018-10-07  8:25   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-07 15:25     ` Shuah Khan
2018-10-07  9:04   ` Daniel Vetter
2018-10-07  9:54     ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2018-10-07 15:29     ` James Bottomley
2018-10-08 19:49       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-10-07 17:53   ` Guenter Roeck
2018-10-07 22:25   ` Dave Airlie
2018-10-07 22:56     ` Al Viro
2018-10-07 23:02       ` Al Viro
2018-10-07 23:37       ` Dave Airlie
2018-10-08 10:14         ` Mark Brown
2018-10-08 19:32         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-10-08 17:05       ` Luck, Tony
2018-10-08 14:08     ` James Bottomley
2018-10-10 16:36     ` Pavel Machek
2018-10-08 15:20   ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-08 15:30     ` James Bottomley
2018-10-08 19:23       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-10-08 19:57         ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-09 10:55           ` Mark Brown
2018-10-09 18:29     ` Rainer Fiebig
2018-10-09 18:56       ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-09 19:38         ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-10-09 19:44           ` James Bottomley
2018-10-10  7:22             ` Rainer Fiebig
2018-10-10  5:52           ` Rainer Fiebig
2018-10-10  7:08         ` Rainer Fiebig
2018-10-08 19:24   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-10-10 20:48   ` Frank Rowand
2018-10-06 21:37 ` [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion James Bottomley
2018-10-06 21:43   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Tim.Bird
2018-10-07  3:33     ` James Bottomley
2018-10-08 13:51       ` Tim.Bird
2018-10-08 14:09         ` James Bottomley
2018-10-08 17:58           ` Tim.Bird
2018-10-08 18:11             ` James Bottomley
2018-10-08 18:54               ` Tim.Bird
2018-10-08 15:03         ` jonsmirl
2018-10-08 15:37       ` Alan Cox
2018-10-11  7:42         ` Dan Carpenter
2018-10-07 15:32   ` Shuah Khan
2018-10-07 17:56   ` Guenter Roeck
2018-10-07 19:51   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-08 18:15   ` Chris Mason
2018-10-08 19:04     ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Josh Triplett
2018-10-08 20:23   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-10-10 15:53     ` Alan Cox
2018-10-10 17:19       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-10-10 20:09         ` Alan Cox
2018-10-10 20:30           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-10-07 17:11 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 0/2] code of conduct fixes Daniel Vetter
2018-10-07 17:40   ` James Bottomley
2018-10-07 17:50     ` jonsmirl
2018-10-07 17:52     ` Daniel Vetter
2018-10-10 16:12     ` Pavel Machek
2018-10-10 16:25       ` Randy Dunlap

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