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From: Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com>
To: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Radim Krcmar <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/4] kvm: Add guest side support for free memory hints
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 10:09:44 -0800
Message-ID: <b1282484e2e3cdaf22891f2b31c3c6f859dd0a52.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D108194F-DEBE-43B7-BE61-7D5C52BDAAD3@gmail.com>

On Mon, 2019-02-04 at 17:46 -0800, Nadav Amit wrote:
> > On Feb 4, 2019, at 4:16 PM, Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 4:03 PM Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Feb 4, 2019, at 3:37 PM, Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, 2019-02-04 at 15:00 -0800, Nadav Amit wrote:
> > > > > > On Feb 4, 2019, at 10:15 AM, Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > From: Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Add guest support for providing free memory hints to the KVM hypervisor for
> > > > > > freed pages huge TLB size or larger. I am restricting the size to
> > > > > > huge TLB order and larger because the hypercalls are too expensive to be
> > > > > > performing one per 4K page. Using the huge TLB order became the obvious
> > > > > > choice for the order to use as it allows us to avoid fragmentation of higher
> > > > > > order memory on the host.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I have limited the functionality so that it doesn't work when page
> > > > > > poisoning is enabled. I did this because a write to the page after doing an
> > > > > > MADV_DONTNEED would effectively negate the hint, so it would be wasting
> > > > > > cycles to do so.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > arch/x86/include/asm/page.h |   13 +++++++++++++
> > > > > > arch/x86/kernel/kvm.c       |   23 +++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > > 2 files changed, 36 insertions(+)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/page.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/page.h
> > > > > > index 7555b48803a8..4487ad7a3385 100644
> > > > > > --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/page.h
> > > > > > +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/page.h
> > > > > > @@ -18,6 +18,19 @@
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > struct page;
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > +#ifdef CONFIG_KVM_GUEST
> > > > > > +#include <linux/jump_label.h>
> > > > > > +extern struct static_key_false pv_free_page_hint_enabled;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +#define HAVE_ARCH_FREE_PAGE
> > > > > > +void __arch_free_page(struct page *page, unsigned int order);
> > > > > > +static inline void arch_free_page(struct page *page, unsigned int order)
> > > > > > +{
> > > > > > +   if (static_branch_unlikely(&pv_free_page_hint_enabled))
> > > > > > +           __arch_free_page(page, order);
> > > > > > +}
> > > > > > +#endif
> > > > > 
> > > > > This patch and the following one assume that only KVM should be able to hook
> > > > > to these events. I do not think it is appropriate for __arch_free_page() to
> > > > > effectively mean “kvm_guest_free_page()”.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is it possible to use the paravirt infrastructure for this feature,
> > > > > similarly to other PV features? It is not the best infrastructure, but at least
> > > > > it is hypervisor-neutral.
> > > > 
> > > > I could probably tie this into the paravirt infrastructure, but if I
> > > > did so I would probably want to pull the checks for the page order out
> > > > of the KVM specific bits and make it something we handle in the inline.
> > > > Doing that I would probably make it a paravirtual hint that only
> > > > operates at the PMD level. That way we wouldn't incur the cost of the
> > > > paravirt infrastructure at the per 4K page level.
> > > 
> > > If I understand you correctly, you “complain” that this would affect
> > > performance.
> > 
> > It wasn't so much a "complaint" as an "observation". What I was
> > getting at is that if I am going to make it a PV operation I might set
> > a hard limit on it so that it will specifically only apply to huge
> > pages and larger. By doing that I can justify performing the screening
> > based on page order in the inline path and avoid any PV infrastructure
> > overhead unless I have to incur it.
> 
> I understood. I guess my use of “double quotes” was lost in translation. ;-)

Yeah, I just figured I would restate it to make sure we were "on the
same page". ;-)

> One more point regarding [2/4] - you may want to consider using madvise_free
> instead of madvise_dontneed to avoid unnecessary EPT violations.

For now I am using MADVISE_DONTNEED because it reduces the complexity.
I have been working on a proof of concept with MADVISE_FREE, however we
then have to add some additional checks as MADVISE_FREE only works with
anonymous memory if I am not mistaken.


  reply index

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-04 18:15 [RFC PATCH 0/4] kvm: Report unused guest pages to host Alexander Duyck
2019-02-04 18:15 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] madvise: Expose ability to set dontneed from kernel Alexander Duyck
2019-02-04 18:15 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] kvm: Add host side support for free memory hints Alexander Duyck
2019-02-10  0:44   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-11 17:34     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-11 17:36       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-11 17:41     ` Dave Hansen
2019-02-11 17:48       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-11 18:30         ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-11 19:24           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-04 18:15 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] kvm: Add guest " Alexander Duyck
2019-02-04 19:44   ` Dave Hansen
2019-02-04 20:42     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-04 23:00   ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-04 23:37     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-05  0:03       ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-05  0:16         ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-05  1:46           ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-05 18:09             ` Alexander Duyck [this message]
2019-02-07 18:21   ` Luiz Capitulino
2019-02-07 18:44     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-07 20:02       ` Luiz Capitulino
2019-02-08 21:05       ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-02-08 21:31         ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-10  0:49   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-11 16:31     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-11 17:36       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-11 18:10         ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-11 19:54           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-11 21:00             ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-11 22:52               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                 ` <94462313ccd927d25675f69de459456cf066c1a2.camel@linux.intel.com>
2019-02-12  0:34                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-11 17:48     ` Dave Hansen
2019-02-11 17:58       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-11 18:19         ` Dave Hansen
2019-02-11 19:56           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-04 18:15 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] mm: Add merge page notifier Alexander Duyck
2019-02-04 19:40   ` Dave Hansen
2019-02-04 19:51     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-10  0:57   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-11 13:30     ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-02-11 14:17       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-11 16:24         ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-02-11 17:41           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-11 18:09             ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-02-11  6:40   ` Aaron Lu
2019-02-11 15:58     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-12  2:09       ` Aaron Lu
2019-02-12 17:20         ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-04 18:19 ` [RFC PATCH QEMU] i386/kvm: Enable paravirtual unused page hint mechanism Alexander Duyck
2019-02-05 17:25 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] kvm: Report unused guest pages to host Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-02-05 18:43   ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-07 14:48 ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-02-07 16:56   ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-10  0:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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