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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/9] introduce mirrored memory support for arm64
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 10:13:40 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b2864968-3cc7-dba3-5361-d8ee4cc3482a@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMj1kXGyKQMeFWSK-s84pdL89qPTyTN_x3WHTgp_R7sH1+qOfA@mail.gmail.com>



在 2022/4/20 2:32, Ard Biesheuvel 写道:
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 at 03:32, mawupeng <mawupeng1@huawei.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> 在 2022/4/14 18:22, Ard Biesheuvel 写道:
>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 at 11:54, Wupeng Ma <mawupeng1@huawei.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: Ma Wupeng <mawupeng1@huawei.com>
>>>>
>>>> Commit b05b9f5f9dcf ("x86, mirror: x86 enabling - find mirrored memory ranges")
>>>> introduced mirrored memory support for x86. This support rely on UEFI to
>>>> report mirrored memory address ranges.  See UEFI 2.5 spec pages 157-158:
>>>>
>>>>     http://www.uefi.org/sites/default/files/resources/UEFI%202_5.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Memory mirroring is a technique used to separate memory into two separate
>>>> channels, usually on a memory device, like a server. In memory mirroring,
>>>> one channel is copied to another to create redundancy. This method makes
>>>> input/output (I/O) registers and memory appear with more than one address
>>>> range because the same physical byte is accessible at more than one
>>>> address. Using memory mirroring, higher memory reliability and a higher
>>>> level of memory consolidation are possible.
>>>>
>>>> Arm64 can support this too. So mirrored memory support is added to support
>>>> arm64.
>>>>
>>>> Efi_fake_mem is used for testing mirrored features and will not be used in
>>>> production environment. This test features can fake memory's attribute
>>>> values.
>>>>
>>>> The reason why efi_fake_mem support is put first is that memory's attribute
>>>> is reported by BIOS which is hard to simulate. With this support, any arm64
>>>> machines with efi support can easily test mirrored features.
>>>>
>>>> The main purpose of this patchset is to introduce mirrored support for
>>>> arm64 and we have already fixed the problems we had which is shown in
>>>> patch #5 to patch #7 and try to bring total isolation in patch #8 which
>>>> will disable mirror feature if kernelcore is not specified.
>>>>
>>>> In order to test this support in arm64:
>>>> - patch this patchset
>>>> - add efi_fake_mem=8G@0:0x10000 in kernel parameter to simulate mirrored
>>>>     memroy between phy addr 0-8G.
>>>> - add kernelcore=mirror in kernel parameter
>>>> - start you kernel
>>>>
>>>
>>> As I explained before:
>>>
>>> - NAK to EFI fake_mem support on arm64
>>
>> fake_mem support on arm64 will be removed in subsequent version.
>>
>>> - NAK to the whole series until you come up with a proposal on how to
>>> locate the static kernel image itself into more reliable memory, as
>>> there is really no point to any of this otherwise.
>>
>> Sorry I am not familiar with this, as you metioned before,
>>
>>   > you have to iterate over the memory map and look for regions with
>>   > the desired attribute, and allocate those pages explicitly.
>>
>> Do you mean this is x86, commit c05cd79750fb
>> ("x86/boot/KASLR: Prefer mirrored memory regions for the kernel physical address").
>> I will do some research.
>>
>>   > I'd prefer to implement this in the bootloader, and only add minimal
>>   > logic to the stub to respect the placement of the kernel by the loader
>>   > if the loader signals it to do so.
>>
>> Does this bootloader refer to grub and then add minimal logic to arm64-stub.c?
>>
> 
> Any bootloader, yes.
> 
>> What is the loader signal?
> 
> A protocol installed onto the image handle, as I suggested before. I
> even cc'ed you on a patch that implements this.

Sorry to bother you.
I didn't receive any patches.
Could you share the link?

> 
>> System exists mirrored memory reported by uefi?
>>
> 
> What on earth is the point of any of this if the only use case being
> targeted is efi_fake_mem with arbitrary fake mirrored regions?
> 
> So yes, unless there are systems that need this, I don't see a point
> in merging any of this
We do have mirrored memory reported by uefi and efi_fake_mem is added for easy testing
with qemu/hardware without update UEFI.

> .

  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-20  2:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-14 10:13 [PATCH v2 0/9] introduce mirrored memory support for arm64 Wupeng Ma
2022-04-14 10:13 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] efi: Make efi_print_memmap() public Wupeng Ma
2022-04-14 10:13 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] arm64: efi: Add fake memory support Wupeng Ma
2022-04-14 10:13 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] efi: Make efi_find_mirror() public Wupeng Ma
2022-04-14 10:13 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] arm64/mirror: arm64 enabling - find mirrored memory ranges Wupeng Ma
2022-04-14 10:13 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] mm: Ratelimited mirrored memory related warning messages Wupeng Ma
2022-04-14 10:13 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] mm: Demote warning message in vmemmap_verify() to debug level Wupeng Ma
2022-04-14 10:13 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] mm: Calc the right pfn if page size is not 4K Wupeng Ma
2022-04-19  9:59   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-04-19 11:14   ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-04-19 18:29     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-20 22:27       ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-20 22:39         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-14 10:13 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] efi: Disable mirror feature if kernelcore is not specified Wupeng Ma
2022-04-14 10:13 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] ia64/efi: Code simplification in efi_init Wupeng Ma
2022-04-14 10:22 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] introduce mirrored memory support for arm64 Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-16  1:32   ` mawupeng
2022-04-19 18:32     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-04-20  2:13       ` mawupeng [this message]
2022-04-19  7:01   ` [PATCH 0/2] Add support to relocate kernel image to mirrored region Wupeng Ma
2022-04-19  7:01     ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64/boot/KASLR: " Wupeng Ma
2022-04-19  7:01     ` [PATCH 2/2] arm64/boot: Add support to relocate kernel image to mirrored region without kaslr Wupeng Ma
2022-05-03  9:58     ` [PATCH 0/2] Add support to relocate kernel image to mirrored region Ard Biesheuvel
2022-05-07  9:28       ` mawupeng
2022-05-19 11:09         ` mawupeng
2022-05-20  6:52           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-05-20  6:52             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-05-23 11:48               ` mawupeng
2022-05-23  1:18             ` mawupeng
2022-05-23 14:41               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-05-24  1:11                 ` mawupeng

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