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From: Vineet Gupta <Vineet.Gupta1@synopsys.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: "linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	arcml <linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: single copy atomicity for double load/stores on 32-bit systems
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 11:44:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b6dbe51f-88a8-0b18-e0e7-147d8022ad54@synopsys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <895ec12746c246579aed5dd98ace6e38@AcuMS.aculab.com>

On 5/31/19 2:41 AM, David Laight wrote:
>> While it seems reasonable form hardware pov to not implement such atomicity by
>> default it seems there's an additional burden on application writers. They could
>> be happily using a lockless algorithm with just a shared flag between 2 threads
>> w/o need for any explicit synchronization. But upgrade to a new compiler which
>> aggressively "packs" struct rendering long long 32-bit aligned (vs. 64-bit before)
>> causing the code to suddenly stop working. Is the onus on them to declare such
>> memory as c11 atomic or some such.
> A 'new' compiler can't suddenly change the alignment rules for structure elements.
> The alignment rules will be part of the ABI.
> 
> More likely is that the structure itself is unexpectedly allocated on
> an 8n+4 boundary due to code changes elsewhere.

Indeed thats what I meant that the layout changed as is typical of a new compiler.

      parent reply	other threads:[~2019-06-03 18:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-30 18:22 single copy atomicity for double load/stores on 32-bit systems Vineet Gupta
2019-05-30 18:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-05-30 19:16   ` Vineet Gupta
2019-05-31  8:23     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31  8:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31  8:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-03 18:08   ` Vineet Gupta
2019-06-03 20:13     ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03 21:59       ` Vineet Gupta
2019-06-04  7:41       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-06-06  9:43         ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-06  9:53           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-06-06 16:34           ` David Laight
2019-06-06 21:17             ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03 18:43   ` Vineet Gupta
2019-07-01 20:05   ` Vineet Gupta
2019-07-02 10:46     ` Will Deacon
2019-05-31  9:41 ` David Laight
2019-05-31 11:44   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03 18:44   ` Vineet Gupta [this message]

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