From: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Chenyi Qiang <chenyi.qiang@intel.com>,
pbonzini@redhat.com, vkuznets@redhat.com, wanpengli@tencent.com,
jmattson@google.com, joro@8bytes.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, hpa@zytor.com, x86@kernel.org,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] KVM: VMX: Enable Notify VM exit
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 10:58:20 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b6f2acf8-eef4-9483-1937-191209bcef9f@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YTpZeVZb5tsscAmv@google.com>
On 9/10/2021 2:59 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 07, 2021, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
>> On 9/3/2021 12:36 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 02, 2021, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Aug 03, 2021, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
>>>>> On 8/2/2021 11:46 PM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>>>>>>>> @@ -5642,6 +5653,31 @@ static int handle_bus_lock_vmexit(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
>>>>>>>>> return 0;
>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>> +static int handle_notify(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
>>>>>>>>> +{
>>>>>>>>> + unsigned long exit_qual = vmx_get_exit_qual(vcpu);
>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>> + if (!(exit_qual & NOTIFY_VM_CONTEXT_INVALID)) {
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What does CONTEXT_INVALID mean? The ISE doesn't provide any information whatsoever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It means whether the VM context is corrupted and not valid in the VMCS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well that's a bit terrifying. Under what conditions can the VM context become
>>>>>> corrupted? E.g. if the context can be corrupted by an inopportune NOTIFY exit,
>>>>>> then KVM needs to be ultra conservative as a false positive could be fatal to a
>>>>>> guest.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Short answer is no case will set the VM_CONTEXT_INVALID bit.
>>>>
>>>> But something must set it, otherwise it wouldn't exist.
>>
>> For existing Intel silicon, no case will set it. Maybe in the future new
>> case will set it.
>>
>>> The condition(s) under
>>>> which it can be set matters because it affects how KVM should respond. E.g. if
>>>> the guest can trigger VM_CONTEXT_INVALID at will, then we should probably treat
>>>> it as a shutdown and reset the VMCS.
>>>
>>> Oh, and "shutdown" would be relative to the VMCS, i.e. if L2 triggers a NOTIFY
>>> exit with VM_CONTEXT_INVALID then KVM shouldn't kill the entire VM. The least
>>> awful option would probably be to synthesize a shutdown VM-Exit to L1. That
>>> won't communicate to L1 that vmcs12 state is stale/bogus, but I don't see any way
>>> to handle that via an existing VM-Exit reason :-/
>>>
>>>> But if VM_CONTEXT_INVALID can occur if and only if there's a hardware/ucode
>>>> issue, then we can do:
>>>>
>>>> if (KVM_BUG_ON(exit_qual & NOTIFY_VM_CONTEXT_INVALID, vcpu->kvm))
>>>> return -EIO;
>>>>
>>>> Either way, to enable this by default we need some form of documentation that
>>>> describes what conditions lead to VM_CONTEXT_INVALID.
>>
>> I still don't know why the conditions lead to it matters. I think the
>> consensus is that once VM_CONTEXT_INVALID happens, the vcpu can no longer
>> run.
>
> Yes, and no longer being able to run the vCPU is precisely the problem. The
> condition(s) matters because if there's a possibility, however small, that enabling
> NOTIFY_WINDOW can kill a well-behaved guest then it absolutely cannot be enabled by
> default.
For now, no condition will set it. For future, I believe it will be set
only for some fatal case. However, we cannot guarantee no silicon bug to
break a well-behaved the guest. Maybe let's make it opt-in?
>> Either KVM_BUG_ON() or a specific EXIT to userspace should be OK?
>
> Not if the VM_CONTEXT_INVALID happens while L2 is running. If software can trigger
> VM_CONTEXT_INVALID at will, then killing the VM would open up the door to a
> malicious L2 killing L1 (which would be rather ironic since this is an anti-DoS
> feature). IIUC, VM_CONTEXT_INVALID only means the current VMCS is garbage, thus
> an occurence while L2 is active means that vmcs02 is junk, but L1's state in vmcs01,
> vmcs12, etc... is still valid.
>
Maybe we can kill the L2 when VM_CONTEXT_INVALID happens in L2.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-09-13 2:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-05-25 5:12 [PATCH v2] KVM: VMX: Enable Notify VM exit Tao Xu
2021-06-02 10:31 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-06-03 1:23 ` Tao Xu
2021-06-03 13:43 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-06-03 1:25 ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-06-03 13:35 ` Jim Mattson
2021-06-07 9:24 ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-06-03 13:52 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-06-07 9:23 ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-06-24 4:52 ` Tao Xu
2021-07-22 3:25 ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-07-30 20:41 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-08-02 12:53 ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-08-02 15:46 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-08-03 0:38 ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-09-02 9:28 ` Chenyi Qiang
2021-09-02 16:29 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-07 13:33 ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-09-09 18:47 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-10 7:39 ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-09-10 17:55 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-02 16:15 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-02 16:36 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-07 13:45 ` Xiaoyao Li
2021-09-09 18:59 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-09-13 2:58 ` Xiaoyao Li [this message]
2021-10-15 18:29 ` Sean Christopherson
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