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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Adrian Bunk' <bunk@kernel.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	"alex.gaynor@gmail.com" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"geofft@ldpreload.com" <geofft@ldpreload.com>,
	"jbaublitz@redhat.com" <jbaublitz@redhat.com>,
	Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	clang-built-linux <clang-built-linux@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Linux kernel in-tree Rust support
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 14:46:41 +0000
Message-ID: <b7d81a68c0b34acd84b6a78b6d37a776@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200719181919.GA4179@localhost>

From: Adrian Bunk
> Sent: 19 July 2020 19:19
...
> The correct range for a mandatory tool are the 6 to 12 years for gcc.
> 
> Debian stable and Ubuntu LTS are providing (different) mechanisms
> for installing the kernel from the next stable/LTS release 2 years
> later[1] for supporting new hardware.
> If kernel 5.12 LTS cannot be compiled on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS with
> the 2019 gcc 9 there would be pain downstream.

We have customers that are (still) using RHEL6 (2.6.32 era).
Since we have to build C++ programs that will run on those
systems we have systems with very old toolchains.
(Yes, you can build in a chroot or an a VM but that needs
setting up quite carefully - easier to keep the old machine.)

It is rather a PITA when kernel builds deprecate the installed gcc.
Now I'm not sure a 5.x kernel will run with the userspace from RHEL6.
But I know it runs with that from Ubuntu 13.04.
In a few years I'll be able to use the 13.04 system for release builds
but it is still far too new for that.
However I can no longer build 'current' custom kernels on it.
I've other (newer) systems but they aren't any (maybe much) faster.

	David

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  reply index

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-09 18:41 Nick Desaulniers
2020-07-09 20:52 ` Miguel Ojeda
2020-07-10  5:36 ` Josh Triplett
2020-07-10  6:28 ` Greg KH
2020-07-10 12:50   ` Christian Brauner
2020-07-10 16:10     ` Kees Cook
     [not found]       ` <CAFRnB2WNo45J8h3-ncopLKENvcO0rf7J3xsy_eRKwFSpDD-5sQ@mail.gmail.com>
2020-07-10 23:05         ` Kees Cook
2020-07-10 22:59     ` Josh Triplett
2020-07-10 23:54       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-11 21:03         ` Josh Triplett
2020-07-28 20:40           ` Pavel Machek
2020-07-29  6:34             ` Josh Triplett
2020-07-11 17:13 ` Geoffrey Thomas
2020-07-12 12:31 ` Adrian Bunk
2020-07-12 19:39   ` Josh Triplett
2020-07-12 20:33     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-12 20:45     ` Adrian Bunk
2020-07-14  8:27       ` David Laight
2020-07-16 13:06     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-16 23:12       ` Josh Triplett
2020-07-19 18:19       ` Adrian Bunk
2020-07-20 14:46         ` David Laight [this message]
2020-08-23 21:02     ` Adrian Bunk
2020-08-23 21:54       ` Geoffrey Thomas
2020-07-13 18:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-07-13 21:33   ` Josh Triplett

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