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From: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
To: dikshita@codeaurora.org
Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org, stanimir.varbanov@linaro.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	vgarodia@codeaurora.org, majja@codeaurora.org,
	jdas@codeaurora.org, Yunfei Dong <yunfei.dong@mediatek.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] METADATA design using V4l2 Request API
Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 13:24:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b866e94a-1af2-5646-9e1c-6d027d172b97@xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fb96e2c09346e7831a0af99c0fe9f94c@codeaurora.org>

On 28/05/2020 12:48, dikshita@codeaurora.org wrote:
> Hi Hans,
> 
> Thanks for the review.
> 
> On 2020-05-26 16:27, Hans Verkuil wrote:
>> Hi Dikshita,
>>
>> My apologies for the delay, this was (mostly) due to various vacation 
>> days.
>>
>> On 08/05/2020 08:21, Dikshita Agarwal wrote:
>>> There are many commercialized video use cases which needs metadata 
>>> info
>>> to be circulated between v4l2 client and v4l2 driver.
>>>
>>> METADATA has following requirements associated:
>>> •Metadata is an optional info available for a buffer. It is not 
>>> mandatorily for every buffer.
>>>  For ex. consider metadata ROI (Region Of Interest). ROI is specified 
>>> by clients to indicate
>>>  the region where enhanced quality is desired. This metadata is given 
>>> as an input information
>>>  to encoder output plane. Client may or may not specify the ROI for a 
>>> frame during encode as
>>>  an input metadata. Also if the client has not provided ROI metadata 
>>> for a given frame,
>>>  it would be incorrect to take the metadata from previous frame. If 
>>> the data and
>>>  metadata is asynchronous, it would be difficult for hardware to 
>>> decide if it
>>>  needs to wait for metadata buffer or not before processing the input 
>>> frame for encoding.
>>> •Synchronize the buffer requirement across both the video node/session
>>>  (incase metadata is being processed as a separate v4l2 video 
>>> node/session).
>>>  This is to avoid buffer starvation.
>>> •Associate the metadata buffer with the data buffer without adding any 
>>> pipeline delay
>>>  in waiting for each other. This is applicable both at the hardware 
>>> side (the processing end)
>>>  and client side (the receiving end).
>>> •Low latency usecases like WFD/split rendering/game streaming/IMS have 
>>> sub-50ms e2e latency
>>>  requirements, and it is not practical to stall the pipeline due to 
>>> inherent framework latencies.
>>>  High performance usecase like high-frame rate playback/record can 
>>> lead to frame loss during any pipeline latency.
>>>
>>> To address all above requirements, we used v4l2 Request API as 
>>> interlace.
>>>
>>> As an experiment, We have introduced new control 
>>> V4L2_CID_MPEG_VIDEO_VENUS_METADATA
>>> to contain the METADATA info. Exact controls can be finalized once the 
>>> interface is discussed.
>>>
>>> For setting metadata from userspace to kernel, let say on encode 
>>> output plane,
>>> following code sequence was followed
>>> 1. Video driver is registering for media device and creating a media 
>>> node in /dev
>>> 2. Request fd is allocated by calling MEDIA_IOC_REQUEST_ALLOC IOCTL on 
>>> media fd.
>>> 3. METADATA configuration is being applied on request fd using 
>>> VIDIOC_S_EXT_CTRLS IOCTL
>>>    and the same request fd is added to buf structure structure before 
>>> calling VIDIOC_QBUF on video fd.
>>> 4. The same request is queued through MEDIA_REQUEST_IOC_QUEUE IOCTL to 
>>> driver then, as a result
>>>    to which METADATA control will be applied to buffer through S_CTRL.
>>> 5. Once control is applied and request is completed, 
>>> MEDIA_REQUEST_IOC_REINIT IOCTL is called
>>>    to re-initialize the request.
>>
>> This is fine and should work well. It's what the Request API is for,
>> so no problems here.
>>
>>>
>>> We could achieve the same on capture plane as well by removing few 
>>> checks present currently
>>> in v4l2 core which restrict the implementation to only output plane.
>>
>> Why do you need the Request API for the capture side in a
>> memory-to-memory driver? It is not
>> clear from this patch series what the use-case is. There are reasons
>> why this is currently
>> not allowed. So I need to know more about this.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> 	Hans
>>
> we need this for use cases like HDR10+ where metadata info is part of 
> the bitstream.
> To handle such frame specific data, support for request api on capture 
> plane would be needed.

That's for the decoder, right? So the decoder extracts the HDR10+ metadata
and fills in a control with the metadata?

If that's the case, then it matches a similar request I got from mediatek.
What is needed is support for 'read-only' requests: i.e. the driver can
associate controls with a capture buffer and return that to userspace. But
it is not possible to *set* controls in userspace when queuing the request.

If you think about it you'll see that setting controls in userspace for
a capture queue request makes no sense, but having the driver add set
read-only controls when the request is finished is fine and makes sense.

Implementing this shouldn't be a big job: you'd need a new V4L2_BUF_CAP_SUPPORTS_RO_REQUESTS
capability, a corresponding new flag in struct vb2_queue, a new ro_requests flag in
struct v4l2_ctrl_handler, and try_set_ext_ctrls() should check that flag and refuse to
try/set any controls if it is true.

Finally, the v4l2_m2m_qbuf() function should be updated to just refuse the case where both
capture and output queue set V4L2_BUF_CAP_SUPPORTS_REQUESTS.

And the documentation needs to be updated.

I've added Yunfei Dong to the CC list, perhaps mediatek did some work on
this already.

Regards,

	Hans

> 
> Thanks,
> Dikshita
>>>
>>> We profiled below data with this implementation :
>>> 1. Total time taken ( round trip ) for setting up control data on 
>>> video driver
>>>    with VIDIOC_S_EXT_CTRLS, QBUF and Queue Request: 737us
>>> 2. Time taken for first QBUF on Output plane to reach driver with 
>>> REQUEST API enabled (One way): 723us
>>> 3. Time taken for first QBUF on Output plane to reach driver without 
>>> REQUEST API (One way) : 250us
>>> 4. Time taken by each IOCTL to complete ( round trip ) with REQUEST 
>>> API enabled :
>>>     a. VIDIOC_S_EXT_CTRLS : 201us
>>>     b. VIDIOC_QBUF : 92us
>>>     c. MEDIA_REQUEST_IOC_QUEUE: 386us
>>>
>>> Kindly share your feedback/comments on the design/call sequence.
>>> Also as we experimented and enabled the metadata on capture plane as 
>>> well, please comment if any issue in
>>> allowing the metadata exchange on capture plane as well.
>>>
>>> Reference for client side implementation can be found at [1].
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dikshita
>>>
>>> [1] 
>>> https://git.linaro.org/people/stanimir.varbanov/v4l2-encode.git/log/?h=dikshita/request-api
>>>
>>> Dikshita Agarwal (3):
>>>   Register for media device
>>>     - Initialize and register for media device
>>>     - define venus_m2m_media_ops
>>>     - Implement APIs to register/unregister media controller.
>>>   Enable Request API for output buffers
>>>     - Add dependency on MEDIA_CONTROLLER_REQUEST_API in Kconfig.
>>>     - Initialize vb2 ops buf_out_validate and buf_request_complete.
>>>     - Add support for custom Metadata control 
>>> V4L2_CID_MPEG_VIDEO_VENUS_METADATA
>>>     - Implemeted/Integrated APIs for Request setup/complete.
>>>   Enable Request API for Capture Buffers
>>>
>>>  drivers/media/common/videobuf2/videobuf2-v4l2.c |   4 +-
>>>  drivers/media/platform/Kconfig                  |   2 +-
>>>  drivers/media/platform/qcom/venus/core.h        |  36 ++++
>>>  drivers/media/platform/qcom/venus/helpers.c     | 247 
>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++-
>>>  drivers/media/platform/qcom/venus/helpers.h     |  15 ++
>>>  drivers/media/platform/qcom/venus/venc.c        |  63 +++++-
>>>  drivers/media/platform/qcom/venus/venc_ctrls.c  |  61 +++++-
>>>  drivers/media/v4l2-core/v4l2-ctrls.c            |  10 +
>>>  drivers/media/v4l2-core/v4l2-mem2mem.c          |  17 +-
>>>  include/media/v4l2-ctrls.h                      |   1 +
>>>  include/media/venus-ctrls.h                     |  22 +++
>>>  11 files changed, 465 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-)
>>>  create mode 100644 include/media/venus-ctrls.h
>>>


  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-28 11:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-08  6:21 [RFC] METADATA design using V4l2 Request API Dikshita Agarwal
2020-05-08  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] Register for media device Dikshita Agarwal
2020-05-08  6:21 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] Enable Request API for output buffers Dikshita Agarwal
2020-05-08  6:21 ` [PATCH 3/3] Enable Request API for Capture Buffers Dikshita Agarwal
2020-05-26  6:31 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] METADATA design using V4l2 Request API dikshita
2020-05-26  7:03   ` Hans Verkuil
2020-05-26 10:57 ` [RFC] " Hans Verkuil
2020-05-28 10:48   ` dikshita
2020-05-28 11:24     ` Hans Verkuil [this message]
2020-05-29  2:08       ` Nicolas Dufresne
2020-06-11 15:06         ` Nicolas Dufresne
2020-06-12 10:05           ` Hans Verkuil
2020-06-12 16:37             ` Nicolas Dufresne
2020-06-16 13:00               ` dikshita
2020-06-23 12:47                 ` dikshita
2020-07-02  6:33                   ` dikshita
2020-08-03 11:32                 ` Hans Verkuil
2020-09-14 10:21                   ` dikshita
2020-09-14 10:31                     ` Hans Verkuil
2020-05-29  2:18     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2020-05-29  7:31       ` Hans Verkuil
2020-06-05  7:02         ` dikshita
2020-06-05 17:43           ` Nicolas Dufresne

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