From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264232AbTEGV1c (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 May 2003 17:27:32 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264243AbTEGV1c (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 May 2003 17:27:32 -0400 Received: from mail.hometree.net ([212.34.181.120]:40388 "EHLO mail.hometree.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264232AbTEGV13 (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 May 2003 17:27:29 -0400 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Path: not-for-mail From: "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" Newsgroups: hometree.linux.kernel Subject: Re: Why DRM exists [was Re: Flame Linus to a crisp!] Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 21:40:03 +0000 (UTC) Organization: INTERMETA - Gesellschaft fuer Mehrwertdienste mbH Message-ID: References: <20030507164434.6b891b14.skraw@ithnet.com> Reply-To: hps@intermeta.de NNTP-Posting-Host: forge.intermeta.de X-Trace: tangens.hometree.net 1052343603 20118 212.34.181.4 (7 May 2003 21:40:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@intermeta.de NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 21:40:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Copyright: (C) 1996-2003 Henning Schmiedehausen X-No-Archive: yes User-Agent: nn/6.6.5 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Stephan von Krawczynski writes: >On Tue, 6 May 2003 15:58:02 +0000 (UTC) >"Henning P. Schmiedehausen" wrote: >> Stephan von Krawczynski writes: >> >> >copy-protected I cannot do that _legally_, because breaking the protection >> >is against DMCA. Now you just created the case where _buying_ something does >> >not >> >> You live in which country? So why do you care about archaic law in >> foreign countries? The DMCA doesn't apply (yet) to the E.U. >This is not completely true. You can be imprisoned (and "handed over") even as >E.U. citizen to US for violation of US laws. E.U. signed a respective Only if it is a crime by E.U. standards, too. Copying a CD isn't (yet). [...] >of the new german Urheberrecht which is said to come somewhen this autumn. >There is a clear statement that private copies are illegal after that passed >parliament. The proposed change to the german law is consided unconstitutional by many lawyers (and if the current governement is really stupid enough to pass the law, it will almost surely get shot down by the german supreme court. >> Copying a CD for private use is perfectly legal here in Germany. >Just wait 6 month and see... I'm pretty sure that Germany will not get pressured into an US-like DMCA. We will have to obey E.U. law in the end and in the E.U. there are some countries with more backbone than ours (France, e.g. who basically spit on anything that comes out of the U.S....). Regards Henning -- Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen INTERMETA GmbH hps@intermeta.de +49 9131 50 654 0 http://www.intermeta.de/ Java, perl, Solaris, Linux, xSP Consulting, Web Services freelance consultant -- Jakarta Turbine Development -- hero for hire