From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
To: Daniel Colascione <dancol@google.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com, Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>, Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>,
"libc-alpha@sourceware.org" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: Official Linux system wrapper library?
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 07:55:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bbc12da5-830e-99a7-95e3-d9da42947dc9@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKOZuesB4R=dCz4merWQN0FSCGrXmOgUUr4ienSbStBJguNv8g@mail.gmail.com>
[adding in glibc folk for comment]
On 11/10/18 7:52 PM, Daniel Colascione wrote:
> Now that glibc is basically not adding any new system call wrappers,
> how about publishing an "official" system call glue library as part of
> the kernel distribution, along with the uapi headers? I don't think
> it's reasonable to expect people to keep using syscall(__NR_XXX) for
> all new functionality, especially as the system grows increasingly
> sophisticated capabilities (like the new mount API, and hopefully the
> new process API) outside the strictures of the POSIX process.
As a quick glance at the glibc NEWS file shows, the above is not
quite true:
[[
Version 2.28
* The renameat2 function has been added...
* The statx function has been added...
Version 2.27
* Support for memory protection keys was added. The <sys/mman.h> header now
declares the functions pkey_alloc, pkey_free, pkey_mprotect...
* The copy_file_range function was added.
Version 2.26
* New wrappers for the Linux-specific system calls preadv2 and pwritev2.
Version 2.25
* The getrandom [function] have been added.
]]
I make that 11 system call wrappers added in the last 2 years.
That said, of course, there are many system calls that lack wrappers [1],
and the use of syscall() is undesirable.
The glibc folk do have their reasons for being conservative around
adding system calls (https://lwn.net/Articles/655028/). However, at
this point, I think one of the limiting factors is developer time
on the glibc project. Quite possibly, they just need some help to
add more (properly designed) wrappers faster.
Cheers,
Michael
[1] https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=6399 is a
longstanding example.
--
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-11-11 6:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-10 18:52 Official Linux system wrapper library? Daniel Colascione
2018-11-10 19:01 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-11-10 19:06 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-10 19:33 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-11-10 19:20 ` Greg KH
2018-11-10 19:58 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-12 2:03 ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-11-12 2:24 ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-11-12 2:36 ` Greg KH
2018-11-12 16:08 ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-11-12 20:03 ` Greg KH
2018-12-09 4:38 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-12-10 16:27 ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-12-10 17:39 ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-12-10 23:32 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-11-12 5:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-11 6:55 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [this message]
2018-11-11 8:17 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-11-11 8:25 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-11 10:40 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-11 10:30 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-11 11:02 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-11-11 12:07 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-11 10:53 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2018-11-11 11:02 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-12 16:43 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-13 15:15 ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-11-11 11:11 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-11-11 11:46 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-11 12:09 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-11-12 12:25 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-12 17:36 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-12 17:53 ` Greg KH
2018-11-12 18:09 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-12 18:14 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-11-12 16:59 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-14 12:03 ` Adam Borowski
2018-11-14 12:10 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-16 21:24 ` Alan Cox
2018-11-11 11:09 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-11 14:22 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-12 1:44 ` Paul Eggert
2018-11-12 8:11 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-12 13:19 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-12 17:24 ` Zack Weinberg
2018-11-12 18:28 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-12 19:11 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-12 19:26 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-12 22:51 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-12 23:10 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-12 23:26 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-12 22:34 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-13 19:39 ` Dave Martin
2018-11-13 20:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-14 10:54 ` Dave Martin
2018-11-14 11:40 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-15 10:33 ` Dave Martin
2018-11-14 11:58 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2018-11-14 14:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-14 15:07 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-14 17:40 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-14 18:13 ` Paul Eggert
2018-11-14 14:58 ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-11-14 17:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-14 18:30 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-14 15:40 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-14 18:15 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-14 18:35 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-14 18:47 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-15 5:30 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-11-15 16:29 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-15 17:08 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-11-15 17:14 ` Joseph Myers
2018-11-15 21:00 ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-11-15 20:34 ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-11-23 13:34 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-23 14:11 ` David Newall
2018-11-23 15:23 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2018-11-24 3:41 ` David Newall
2018-11-28 13:18 ` David Laight
2018-11-23 20:15 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-23 23:19 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2018-11-12 12:45 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2018-11-12 14:35 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-11-12 14:40 ` Daniel Colascione
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