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From: Kristina Martsenko <kristina.martsenko@arm.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Adam Wallis <awallis@codeaurora.org>,
	Amit Kachhap <Amit.Kachhap@arm.com>,
	Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@arm.com>,
	Dave P Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	Jacob Bramley <jacob.bramley@arm.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Ramana Radhakrishnan <ramana.radhakrishnan@arm.com>,
	"Suzuki K . Poulose" <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/17] ARMv8.3 pointer authentication support
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 15:54:43 +0000
Message-ID: <bcfe9fd2-8832-f975-8462-18e6645ffec6@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jJMfCz4qFY8y1Uf7BdP961ZeBotFVUb5owaksxnz26akg@mail.gmail.com>

On 13/11/2018 23:09, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Kristina Martsenko
> <kristina.martsenko@arm.com> wrote:
>> When the PAC authentication fails, it doesn't actually generate an
>> exception, it just flips a bit in the high-order bits of the pointer,
>> making the pointer invalid. Then when the pointer is dereferenced (e.g.
>> as a function return address), it generates the usual type of exception
>> for an invalid address.
> 
> Ah! Okay, thanks. I missed that detail. :)
> 
> What area of memory ends up being addressable with such bit flips?
> (i.e. is the kernel making sure nothing executable ends up there?)

The address will be in between the user and kernel address ranges, so
it's guaranteed to be invalid and not address any memory.

Specifically, assuming a 48-bit VA configuration, user addresses must
have bits [55:48] clear and kernel addresses must have bits [63:48] set.
When authentication fails it will set two bits in those ranges to "10"
or "01", ensuring that the address is no longer a valid user or kernel
address.

>> So when a function return fails in user mode, the exception is handled
>> in __do_user_fault and a forced SIGSEGV is delivered to the task. When a
>> function return fails in kernel mode, the exception is handled in
>> __do_kernel_fault and the task is killed.
>>
>> This is different from stack protector as we don't panic the kernel, we
>> just kill the task. It would be difficult to panic as we don't have a
>> reliable way of knowing that the exception was caused by a PAC
>> authentication failure (we just have an invalid pointer with a specific
>> bit flipped). We also don't print out any PAC-related warning.
> 
> There are other "guesses" in __do_kernel_fault(), I think? Could a
> "PAC mismatch?" warning be included in the Oops if execution fails in
> the address range that PAC failures would resolve into?

Sounds reasonable to me, I'll add a warning.

Thanks,
Kristina

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Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-05  8:47 Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05  8:47 ` [PATCH v5 01/17] arm64: add pointer authentication register bits Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-11 16:28   ` Will Deacon
2018-10-12  8:53     ` Mark Rutland
2018-10-12  8:56       ` Will Deacon
2018-10-12  9:50         ` Mark Rutland
2018-10-05  8:47 ` [PATCH v5 02/17] arm64/kvm: consistently handle host HCR_EL2 flags Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05  8:47 ` [PATCH v5 03/17] arm64/kvm: hide ptrauth from guests Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05  8:47 ` [PATCH v5 04/17] arm64: Don't trap host pointer auth use to EL2 Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05  8:47 ` [PATCH v5 05/17] arm64/cpufeature: detect pointer authentication Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05  8:47 ` [PATCH v5 06/17] asm-generic: mm_hooks: allow hooks to be overridden individually Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05  8:47 ` [PATCH v5 07/17] arm64: add basic pointer authentication support Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-11 16:00   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2018-10-19 11:15   ` Catalin Marinas
2018-10-19 11:24     ` Will Deacon
2018-10-19 15:36       ` Kees Cook
2018-10-19 15:49         ` Will Deacon
2018-10-19 16:05           ` Kees Cook
2018-10-19 16:16             ` Will Deacon
2018-10-19 15:54         ` Mark Rutland
2018-10-19 16:49       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2018-11-14 18:11       ` Will Deacon
2018-11-15 10:25         ` Dave Martin
2018-10-23  8:36     ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-10-23 10:20       ` Will Deacon
2018-10-05  8:47 ` [PATCH v5 08/17] arm64: expose user PAC bit positions via ptrace Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05  8:47 ` [PATCH v5 09/17] arm64: perf: strip PAC when unwinding userspace Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05  8:47 ` [PATCH v5 10/17] arm64: enable pointer authentication Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05  8:47 ` [PATCH v5 11/17] arm64: docs: document " Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05  9:04   ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-10-16 16:14     ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-19 11:35       ` Catalin Marinas
2018-10-19 11:47         ` Marc Zyngier
2018-10-19 12:22         ` Will Deacon
2018-10-19 14:42         ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-19 15:10           ` Catalin Marinas
2018-10-19 17:45             ` Will Deacon
2018-11-02  6:02               ` Jon Masters
2018-10-24 10:56         ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-10-15 22:35   ` Kees Cook
2018-11-02  9:46     ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-10-05  8:47 ` [RFC 12/17] arm64: move ptrauth keys to thread_info Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-19 11:38   ` Catalin Marinas
2018-10-05  8:47 ` [RFC 13/17] arm64: install user ptrauth keys at kernel exit time Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05  8:47 ` [RFC 14/17] arm64: unwind: strip PAC from kernel addresses Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05  8:47 ` [RFC 15/17] arm64: enable ptrauth earlier Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-06 12:51   ` Amit Kachhap
2018-10-05  8:47 ` [RFC 16/17] arm64: initialize and switch ptrauth kernel keys Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-06 12:56   ` Amit Kachhap
2018-10-05  8:47 ` [RFC 17/17] arm64: compile the kernel with ptrauth -msign-return-address Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05  9:01   ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-10-11 14:00     ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-11 14:23   ` Vladimir Murzin
2018-10-15 22:38     ` Kees Cook
2018-10-15 22:42 ` [PATCH 00/17] ARMv8.3 pointer authentication support Kees Cook
2018-11-13 16:17   ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-11-13 23:09     ` Kees Cook
2018-11-14 15:54       ` Kristina Martsenko [this message]
2018-11-14 21:47       ` Mark Rutland
2018-11-14 22:48         ` Kees Cook
2018-10-19 12:36 ` Will Deacon
2018-10-23  8:39   ` Ramana Radhakrishnan

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