From: Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>
To: "gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk" <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
"gregkh@linuxfoundation.org" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Tim.Bird@sony.com" <Tim.Bird@sony.com>
Cc: "mishi@linux.com" <mishi@linux.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 6/7] Code of Conduct: Change the contact email address
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 20:07:23 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <be343ff93c03fd40b524ae6fdc34448dc947ad82.camel@hammerspace.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ECADFF3FD767C149AD96A924E7EA6EAF80528627@USCULXMSG01.am.sony.com>
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 19:24 +0000, Tim.Bird@sony.com wrote:
> The scope of the code of conduct basically means that it covers
> online interactions (communication via mailing list, git commits
> and Bugzilla). Not to be flippant, but those are hardly mediums
> that are susceptible to executing physical abuse. Also, they are
> all mediums that leave a persistent, public trail. So I don't think
> the
> comparison is very apt here.
> -- Tim
If that is the case, then why does this need to go into the Linux
kernel in the first place? The mailing lists, the kernel.org git
repository, and bugzilla presumably all have "terms of use" pages that
could specify the expected behaviour very explicitly, and could specify
how arbitration works as part of those terms of use (and if enforcement
is required, then it could specify legal venues etc).
IOW: if the scope is just communication online, then I would think
there are better tools for that.
Putting a code of conduct into the kernel code itself wants to be
justified by more than just regulating online behaviour.
--
Trond Myklebust
Linux NFS client maintainer, Hammerspace
trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-20 20:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-20 13:49 [PATCH 0/7] Code of Conduct: Fix some wording, and add an interpretation document Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-20 13:49 ` [PATCH 1/7] Code of conduct: Fix wording around maintainers enforcing the code of conduct Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-20 13:50 ` [PATCH 2/7] Code of Conduct Interpretation: Add document explaining how the Code of Conduct is to be interpreted Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-20 13:50 ` [PATCH 3/7] Code of Conduct Interpretation: Properly reference the TAB correctly Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-20 13:50 ` [PATCH 4/7] Code of Conduct: Provide links between the two documents Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-20 13:50 ` [PATCH 5/7] Code of Conduct Interpretation: Put in the proper URL for the committee Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-20 19:01 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-21 7:18 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Greg KH
2018-10-20 13:51 ` [PATCH 6/7] Code of Conduct: Change the contact email address Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-20 18:28 ` Alan Cox
2018-10-20 18:45 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Trond Myklebust
2018-10-20 19:14 ` jonsmirl
2018-10-21 8:27 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-10-21 9:23 ` Greg KH
2018-10-20 19:24 ` Tim.Bird
2018-10-20 20:07 ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2018-10-21 0:13 ` Alan Cox
2018-10-21 6:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-10-20 20:13 ` James Bottomley
2018-10-20 13:51 ` [PATCH 7/7] MAINTAINERS: Add an entry for the code of conduct Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-21 21:20 ` Call to Action Re: [PATCH 0/7] Code of Conduct: Fix some wording, and add an interpretation document NeilBrown
2018-10-21 22:26 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Josh Triplett
2018-10-21 23:37 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-10-23 1:44 ` NeilBrown
2018-10-22 20:26 ` NeilBrown
2018-10-22 22:46 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-10-23 1:31 ` NeilBrown
2018-10-23 6:26 ` Dan Carpenter
2018-10-23 6:40 ` Al Viro
2018-10-23 6:46 ` Dan Carpenter
2018-10-23 3:31 ` Al Viro
2018-10-23 4:25 ` NeilBrown
2018-10-23 4:52 ` Al Viro
2018-10-23 5:28 ` NeilBrown
2018-10-23 6:00 ` Al Viro
2018-10-23 20:45 ` NeilBrown
2018-10-23 8:11 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-10-23 14:22 ` Rainer Fiebig
2018-10-23 15:43 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-10-23 17:51 ` Rainer Fiebig
2018-10-23 21:14 ` NeilBrown
2018-10-24 12:16 ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-25 21:14 ` NeilBrown
2018-10-27 1:10 ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-28 21:48 ` NeilBrown
2018-11-01 16:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-11-01 21:11 ` Josh Triplett
2018-11-02 13:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-11-01 21:50 ` NeilBrown
2018-11-02 13:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-11-03 8:36 ` NeilBrown
2018-11-03 17:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-11-03 21:06 ` NeilBrown
2018-11-03 22:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-11-02 13:52 ` James Bottomley
2018-11-03 9:19 ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-11-04 10:35 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-21 22:33 ` Joe Perches
2018-10-21 22:37 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-10-22 9:09 ` Rainer Fiebig
2018-10-22 11:02 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " James Bottomley
2018-10-24 8:49 ` Laura Abbott
2018-10-25 7:56 ` The linux devs can rescind their license grant visionsofalice
2018-10-25 8:19 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-25 19:39 ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-10-25 20:47 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-10-25 21:41 ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-10-25 22:12 ` NeilBrown
2018-10-25 22:38 ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-10-25 22:52 ` NeilBrown
2018-11-04 10:47 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-25 23:06 ` Al Viro
2018-10-26 2:28 ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-10-26 5:49 ` Al Viro
2018-10-27 6:52 ` visionsofalice
2018-10-27 7:32 ` Al Viro
2018-10-27 16:18 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Tim.Bird
2018-10-27 22:09 ` Jiri Kosina
[not found] ` <CAK2MWOtNUTjWy5pTcGco5DNurqNCc=9CfDJ-Ko-K+6HDC55ikg@mail.gmail.com>
2018-10-27 23:07 ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-10-27 23:40 ` Al Viro
2018-10-28 21:13 ` NeilBrown
2018-10-25 23:32 ` Iván Chavero
2018-10-26 13:15 ` Eben Moglen
2018-10-26 15:50 ` Eric S. Raymond
2018-10-26 15:53 ` Eben Moglen
2018-10-26 17:32 ` visionsofalice
2018-10-26 18:31 ` Eben Moglen
2018-10-27 7:12 ` visionsofalice
2018-12-18 18:53 ` The linux devs can rescind their license grant. - Analysis published? visionsofalice
2018-10-26 10:34 ` The linux devs can rescind their license grant visionsofalice
2018-10-29 22:31 ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2018-12-18 19:17 ` visionsofalice
2018-10-27 5:04 ` The linux devs can rescind their license grant. - Additional restrictive terms visionsofalice
2018-12-18 20:55 ` The CoC regime is a License violation " visionsofalice
2018-12-19 1:17 ` visionsofalice
2018-12-23 16:05 ` visionsofalice
2018-10-25 22:02 ` Call to Action Re: [PATCH 0/7] Code of Conduct: Fix some wording, and add an interpretation document NeilBrown
2018-10-25 8:06 ` Pavel Machek
2018-10-25 11:20 ` Rainer Fiebig
2018-10-25 22:18 ` NeilBrown
2018-10-26 8:33 ` Rainer Fiebig
2018-10-26 22:40 ` NeilBrown
2018-10-27 11:49 ` Rainer Fiebig
2018-10-21 23:36 ` Eric S. Raymond
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