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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: "Bae, Chang Seok" <chang.seok.bae@intel.com>,
	"Lutomirski, Andy" <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "mingo@kernel.org" <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"bp@suse.de" <bp@suse.de>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Liu, Jing2" <jing2.liu@intel.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"luto@kernel.org" <luto@kernel.org>,
	"Shankar, Ravi V" <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>,
	"Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 13/22] x86/fpu/xstate: Expand dynamic user state area on first use
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 13:41:29 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <be49f086-4135-7859-d88a-8c0444d20087@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d2b79aeddd2982b0a5e775b0fbf4fe828720bb94.camel@intel.com>

On 11/3/20 1:32 PM, Bae, Chang Seok wrote:
> On Wed, 2020-10-14 at 09:29 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
>> On 10/14/20 9:10 AM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>> I was suggesting something a little bit different.  We'd keep XMM,
>>> YMM, ZMM, etc state stored exactly the way we do now and, for
>>> AMX-using tasks, we would save the AMX state in an entirely separate
>>> buffer.  This way the pain of having a variable xstate layout is
>>> confined just to AMX tasks.
>> OK, got it.
>>
>> So, we'd either need a second set of XSAVE/XRSTORs, or "manual" copying
>> of the registers out to memory.  We can preserve the modified
>> optimization if we're careful about ordering, but only for *ONE* of the
>> XSAVE buffers (if we use two).
> For what is worth,
> 
> If using two buffers, the buffer for saving the tile data also needs space
> for the legacy states.

Just to be clear, you're talking about the 512-byte 'struct
fxregs_state' which is the first member of 'struct xregs_state', right?

Basically, any two-buffer model wastes 576 bytes of space (legacy fxsave
plus xsave header) for each task that uses two buffers.  This provides
an overall space savings unless there are something like 16x more
TMUL-using tasks than non-TMUL-using tasks.

We could eliminate the 576 bytes of waste, but at the *performance* cost
of having a permanently (non-task_struct-embedded) out-of-line XSAVE
buffer for all tasks.

> The AMX state is stored at the end of the XSAVE buffer (at least for now).
> So, the layout (in terms of offsets of non-AMX states) won't be changed at
> run-time.

I don't know what point you are trying to make here.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-03 21:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-01 20:38 [RFC PATCH 00/22] x86: Support Intel Advanced Matrix Extensions Chang S. Bae
2020-10-01 20:38 ` [RFC PATCH 01/22] x86/fpu/xstate: Modify area init helper prototypes to access all the possible areas Chang S. Bae
2020-10-01 20:38 ` [RFC PATCH 02/22] x86/fpu/xstate: Modify xstate copy " Chang S. Bae
2020-10-01 20:38 ` [RFC PATCH 03/22] x86/fpu/xstate: Modify address finder " Chang S. Bae
2020-10-01 20:38 ` [RFC PATCH 04/22] x86/fpu/xstate: Modify save and restore helper " Chang S. Bae
2020-10-01 20:38 ` [RFC PATCH 05/22] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce a new variable for dynamic user states Chang S. Bae
2020-10-01 20:38 ` [RFC PATCH 06/22] x86/fpu/xstate: Outline dynamic xstate area size in the task context Chang S. Bae
2020-10-01 20:38 ` [RFC PATCH 07/22] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce helpers to manage an xstate area dynamically Chang S. Bae
2020-10-01 23:41   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-10-13 22:00     ` Brown, Len
2020-10-01 20:38 ` [RFC PATCH 08/22] x86/fpu/xstate: Define the scope of the initial xstate data Chang S. Bae
2020-10-01 20:39 ` [RFC PATCH 09/22] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce wrapper functions for organizing xstate area access Chang S. Bae
2020-10-01 20:39 ` [RFC PATCH 10/22] x86/fpu/xstate: Update xstate save function for supporting dynamic user xstate Chang S. Bae
2020-10-01 20:39 ` [RFC PATCH 11/22] x86/fpu/xstate: Update xstate area address finder " Chang S. Bae
2020-10-01 20:39 ` [RFC PATCH 12/22] x86/fpu/xstate: Update xstate context copy function for supporting dynamic area Chang S. Bae
2020-10-01 20:39 ` [RFC PATCH 13/22] x86/fpu/xstate: Expand dynamic user state area on first use Chang S. Bae
2020-10-01 23:39   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-10-13 22:31     ` Brown, Len
2020-10-13 22:43       ` Dave Hansen
2020-10-14  1:11         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-10-14  6:03           ` Dave Hansen
2020-10-14 16:10             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-10-14 16:29               ` Dave Hansen
2020-11-03 21:32                 ` Bae, Chang Seok
2020-11-03 21:41                   ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2020-11-03 21:53                     ` Bae, Chang Seok
2020-10-14 10:41         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-14  1:47       ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-10-01 20:39 ` [RFC PATCH 14/22] x86/fpu/xstate: Inherit dynamic user state when used in the parent Chang S. Bae
2020-10-01 20:39 ` [RFC PATCH 15/22] x86/fpu/xstate: Support ptracer-induced xstate area expansion Chang S. Bae
2020-10-01 20:39 ` [RFC PATCH 16/22] x86/fpu/xstate: Support dynamic user state in the signal handling path Chang S. Bae
2020-10-01 20:39 ` [RFC PATCH 17/22] x86/fpu/xstate: Extend the table for mapping xstate components with features Chang S. Bae
2020-10-01 20:39 ` [RFC PATCH 18/22] x86/cpufeatures/amx: Enumerate Advanced Matrix Extension (AMX) feature bits Chang S. Bae
2020-10-01 20:39 ` [RFC PATCH 19/22] x86/fpu/amx: Define AMX state components and have it used for boot-time checks Chang S. Bae
2020-10-01 20:39 ` [RFC PATCH 20/22] x86/fpu/amx: Enable the AMX feature in 64-bit mode Chang S. Bae
2020-10-01 20:39 ` [RFC PATCH 21/22] selftest/x86/amx: Include test cases for the AMX state management Chang S. Bae
2020-10-01 20:39 ` [RFC PATCH 22/22] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce boot-parameters for control some state component support Chang S. Bae
2020-10-02  2:09   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-13 23:00     ` Brown, Len
2020-10-02 17:15   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-10-02 17:26     ` Dave Hansen
2020-10-13 23:38     ` Brown, Len
2020-10-02 17:25   ` Dave Hansen

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