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From: Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@mellanox.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Gilad Ben Yossef <giladb@mellanox.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Rik van Riel" <riel@redhat.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Francis Giraldeau <francis.giraldeau@gmail.com>,
	<linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Ping: [PATCH v15 00/13] support "task_isolation" mode
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 13:07:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bf7ccfa0-f05f-913b-0810-de7aecce2d7f@mellanox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160927143511.GD6242@lerouge>

On 9/27/2016 10:35 AM, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> On 8/16/2016 5:19 PM, Chris Metcalf wrote:
>>> Here is a respin of the task-isolation patch set.
>>>
>>> Again, I have been getting email asking me when and where this patch
>>> will be upstreamed so folks can start using it.  I had been thinking
>>> the obvious path was via Frederic Weisbecker to Ingo as a NOHZ kind of
>>> thing.  But perhaps it touches enough other subsystems that that
>>> doesn't really make sense?  Andrew, would it make sense to take it
>>> directly via your tree?  Frederic, Ingo, what do you think?
> As it seems we are still debating a lot of things in this patchset that has already
> reached v15, I think you should split it in smaller steps in order to move forward
> and only get into the next step once the previous is merged.
>
> You could start with a first batch that introduces the prctl() and does the best effort
> one-shot isolation part. Which means the actions that only need to be performed once
> on the prctl call.

So combining this with my reply a moment ago to Andy about just
disabling all deferrable work creation on task isolation cores, that
means we just need a way of checking that the dyntick is off on return
from the prctl.

We could do this in the prctl() itself, but it feels a bit fragile, since
we could do the check for no dyntick and try to return success,
and then some kind of interrupt and/or schedule event might happen
and by the time we actually got back to userspace the dyntick might
be running again.

I think what we can do is arrange to set a bit in the process state
that says we are returning from prctl, and then right as we are
returning to userspace with interrupts disabled, we can check if
that bit is set, and if so check at that point to see if the dyntick
is enabled, and if it is, force the syscall return value to EAGAIN
(and clear the bit regardless).

Within the prctl() code itself, we check for hard prerequisites like being on
a task-isolation cpu, and fail -EINVAL if not.

The upshot is that we end up spinning on a loop through userspace where
we keep retrying the prctl() until the timer quiesces.

> Once we get that merged we can focus on what needs to be performed on every return
> to userspace if that's really needed. Including possibly waiting on some completion.

So in NOSIG mode, instead of setting EAGAIN in the return to
userspace path, we arrange to just wait.  We can figure out in a
follow-on patch whether we want to wait by spinning in some way
or by actually waiting on a completion.  For now I'll just include the
remainder of the patch (with spinning) as an RFC just so people
can have the next piece to look ahead to, but I like your idea of
breaking it out of the main patch series entirely.

-- 
Chris Metcalf, Mellanox Technologies
http://www.mellanox.com

  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-01  1:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-16 21:19 [PATCH v15 00/13] support "task_isolation" mode Chris Metcalf
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 01/13] vmstat: add quiet_vmstat_sync function Chris Metcalf
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 02/13] vmstat: add vmstat_idle function Chris Metcalf
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 03/13] lru_add_drain_all: factor out lru_add_drain_needed Chris Metcalf
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 04/13] task_isolation: add initial support Chris Metcalf
2016-08-29 16:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-29 16:40     ` Chris Metcalf
2016-08-29 16:48       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-29 16:53         ` Chris Metcalf
2016-08-30  7:59           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-30  7:58       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-30 15:32         ` Chris Metcalf
2016-08-30 16:30           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-30 17:02             ` Chris Metcalf
2016-08-30 18:43               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-30 19:37                 ` Chris Metcalf
2016-08-30 19:50                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-09-02 14:04                     ` Chris Metcalf
2016-09-02 17:28                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-09-09 17:40                         ` Chris Metcalf
2016-09-12 17:41                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-09-12 19:25                             ` Chris Metcalf
2016-09-27 14:22                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-09-27 14:39                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-27 14:51                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-09-27 14:48                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-09-30 16:59                 ` Chris Metcalf
2016-09-01 10:06           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-02 14:03             ` Chris Metcalf
2016-09-02 16:40               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-02-02 16:13   ` Eugene Syromiatnikov
2017-02-02 18:12     ` Chris Metcalf
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 05/13] task_isolation: track asynchronous interrupts Chris Metcalf
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 06/13] arch/x86: enable task isolation functionality Chris Metcalf
2016-08-30 21:46   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 07/13] arm64: factor work_pending state machine to C Chris Metcalf
2016-08-17  8:05   ` Will Deacon
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 08/13] arch/arm64: enable task isolation functionality Chris Metcalf
2016-08-26 16:25   ` Catalin Marinas
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 09/13] arch/tile: " Chris Metcalf
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 10/13] arm, tile: turn off timer tick for oneshot_stopped state Chris Metcalf
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 11/13] task_isolation: support CONFIG_TASK_ISOLATION_ALL Chris Metcalf
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 12/13] task_isolation: add user-settable notification signal Chris Metcalf
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 13/13] task_isolation self test Chris Metcalf
2016-08-17 19:37 ` [PATCH] Fix /proc/stat freezes (was [PATCH v15] "task_isolation" mode) Christoph Lameter
2016-08-20  1:42   ` Chris Metcalf
2016-09-28 13:16   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-08-29 16:27 ` Ping: [PATCH v15 00/13] support "task_isolation" mode Chris Metcalf
2016-09-07 21:11   ` Francis Giraldeau
2016-09-07 21:39     ` Francis Giraldeau
2016-09-08 16:21     ` Francis Giraldeau
2016-09-12 16:01     ` Chris Metcalf
2016-09-12 16:14       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-12 21:15         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-13  0:05           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-13 16:00             ` Francis Giraldeau
2016-09-13  0:20       ` Francis Giraldeau
2016-09-13 16:12         ` Chris Metcalf
2016-09-27 14:49         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-09-27 14:35   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-09-30 17:07     ` Chris Metcalf [this message]
2016-11-05  4:04 ` task isolation discussion at Linux Plumbers Chris Metcalf
2016-11-05 16:05   ` Christoph Lameter
2016-11-07 16:55   ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-11-07 18:36     ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-11-07 19:12       ` Rik van Riel
2016-11-07 19:16         ` Will Deacon
2016-11-07 19:18           ` Rik van Riel
2016-11-11 20:54     ` Luiz Capitulino
2016-11-09  1:40   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-09 11:14     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-11-09 17:38       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-09 18:57         ` Will Deacon
2016-11-09 19:11           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-10  1:44         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-11-10  4:52           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-10  5:10             ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-11 17:00             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-11-09 11:07   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-12-19 14:37   ` Paul E. McKenney

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