From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263529AbTIHUOM (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Sep 2003 16:14:12 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263554AbTIHUOM (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Sep 2003 16:14:12 -0400 Received: from tmr-02.dsl.thebiz.net ([216.238.38.204]:13070 "EHLO gatekeeper.tmr.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263529AbTIHUOJ (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Sep 2003 16:14:09 -0400 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Path: gatekeeper.tmr.com!davidsen From: davidsen@tmr.com (bill davidsen) Newsgroups: mail.linux-kernel Subject: Re: Scaling noise Date: 8 Sep 2003 20:05:14 GMT Organization: TMR Associates, Schenectady NY Message-ID: References: <200309030710.h837AXnR000500@81-2-122-30.bradfords.org.uk> X-Trace: gatekeeper.tmr.com 1063051514 9731 192.168.12.62 (8 Sep 2003 20:05:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@tmr.com Originator: davidsen@gatekeeper.tmr.com Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In article <200309030710.h837AXnR000500@81-2-122-30.bradfords.org.uk>, John Bradford wrote: | Once the option of running a firewall, a hot spare firewall, a | customer webserver, a hot spare customer webserver, mail server, | backup mail server, and a few virtual machines for customers, all on a | 1U box, why are you going to want to pay for seven or more Us in a | datacentre, plus extra network hardware? If you plan to run anything else on your firewall, and use the same machine as a hot spare for itself, I don't want you as my ISP. Reliability is expensive, and what you describe is known as a single point of failure. -- bill davidsen CTO, TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979.