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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Rikard Falkeborn <rikard.falkeborn@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] linux/bits.h: Add compile time sanity check of GENMASK inputs
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 17:58:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c4157db4-dbda-5ab1-2092-83c4a3b0f19e@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <099e07d4b4ecca9798404b95dc78c89bc3dd9f7f.camel@perches.com>

On 8/7/19 5:07 PM, Joe Perches wrote:
> On Wed, 2019-08-07 at 23:55 +0900, Masahiro Yamada wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 11:27 PM Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net> wrote:
> []
>>> Who is going to fix the fallout ? For example, arm64:defconfig no longer
>>> compiles with this patch applied.
>>>
>>> It seems to me that the benefit of catching misuses of GENMASK is much
>>> less than the fallout from no longer compiling kernels, since those
>>> kernels won't get any test coverage at all anymore.
>>
>> We cannot apply this until we fix all errors.
>> I do not understand why Andrew picked up this so soon.
> 
> I think it makes complete sense to break -next (not mainline)
> and force
> people to fix defects.  Especially these types of
> defects that are
> trivial to fix.
> 

I don't think this (from next-20190807):

Build results:
	total: 158 pass: 137 fail: 21
Qemu test results:
	total: 391 pass: 318 fail: 73

is very useful. The situation is bad enough for newly introduced problems.
It is all but impossible to get fixes for all problems discovered (or introduced)
by adding checks like this one. In some cases, no one will care. In others,
no one will pick up patches. Sometimes people won't know or realize that
they are expected to fix something. Making the situation worse, the failures
introduced by the new checks will hide other accumulating problems.

arch/sh has failed to build in mainline since 7/27 and in -next since
next-20190711, due to the added "fallthrough" warning. I don't think
that is too useful either. Ok, that situation may be a sign that the
architecture isn't maintained as well as it should, but I don't think
that this warrants breaking it on purpose in the hope to trigger
some kind of reaction.

I don't mind if new checks are introduced, and I agree that it is useful
and makes sense. But the checks should only be introduced after a reasonable
attempt was made to fix _all_ associated problems. That doesn't mean that
the entire work has to be done by the person introducing the check, but I
do see that person responsible for making sure (or a reasonable definition
of "make sure") that all problems are fixed before actually introducing
the check. Yes, I understand, this is a lot of work, but adding checks
and letting all hell break loose can not be the answer.

Guenter

  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-08  0:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2019-07-10  5:04 ` [PATCH 00/12] treewide: Fix GENMASK misuses Joe Perches
2019-07-10  5:04   ` [PATCH 01/12] checkpatch: Add GENMASK tests Joe Perches
2019-07-24 18:03     ` Joe Perches
2019-07-10  5:04   ` [PATCH 02/12] clocksource/drivers/npcm: Fix misuse of GENMASK macro Joe Perches
2019-07-10  9:10     ` [tip:timers/urgent] " tip-bot for Joe Perches
2019-07-15 10:00     ` [PATCH 02/12] " Avi Fishman
2019-07-10  5:04   ` [PATCH 03/12] drm: aspeed_gfx: " Joe Perches
2019-07-24 17:16     ` Joe Perches
2019-07-25  1:10       ` Andrew Jeffery
2019-07-25  1:18         ` Joe Perches
2019-07-25  2:52           ` Joel Stanley
2019-07-25 14:37             ` Joe Perches
2019-07-10  5:04   ` [PATCH 04/12] iio: adc: max9611: " Joe Perches
2019-07-14 11:54     ` Jonathan Cameron
2019-07-14 12:19       ` Joe Perches
2019-07-14 14:37         ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-07-29 21:52         ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-07-31  8:37           ` Jonathan Cameron
2019-07-10  5:04   ` [PATCH 05/12] irqchip/gic-v3-its: " Joe Perches
2019-07-10  8:28     ` Marc Zyngier
2019-07-10  9:07     ` [tip:irq/urgent] " tip-bot for Joe Perches
2019-07-10  5:04   ` [PATCH 06/12] mmc: meson-mx-sdio: " Joe Perches
2019-07-22  7:23     ` Neil Armstrong
2019-07-22 13:43     ` Ulf Hansson
2019-07-10  5:04   ` [PATCH 07/12] net: ethernet: mediatek: Fix misuses " Joe Perches
2019-07-10  5:04   ` [PATCH 08/12] net: stmmac: " Joe Perches
2019-07-10 10:33     ` Jose Abreu
2019-07-10  5:04   ` [PATCH 09/12] rtw88: Fix misuse " Joe Perches
2019-07-10  5:07     ` Tony Chuang
2019-07-24 11:48     ` Kalle Valo
2019-07-10  5:04   ` [PATCH 10/12] phy: amlogic: G12A: " Joe Perches
2019-07-22  7:23     ` Neil Armstrong
2019-08-23  2:41       ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2019-08-23  4:59         ` Joe Perches
2019-07-10  5:04   ` [PATCH 11/12] staging: media: cedrus: " Joe Perches
2019-07-10  7:23     ` Paul Kocialkowski
2019-07-24 17:09     ` Joe Perches
2019-07-24 18:35       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-07-24 18:39         ` Joe Perches
2019-07-24 18:55           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-07-25  6:46       ` Hans Verkuil
2019-07-10  5:04   ` [PATCH 12/12] ASoC: wcd9335: " Joe Perches
2019-07-22 12:22     ` Applied "ASoC: wcd9335: Fix misuse of GENMASK macro" to the asoc tree Mark Brown
2019-07-10  9:17   ` [PATCH 00/12] treewide: Fix GENMASK misuses Johannes Berg
2019-07-10  9:43     ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-07-10 15:45       ` Joe Perches
2019-07-10 16:01         ` Joe Perches
2019-07-27 19:54           ` Rikard Falkeborn
2019-07-28 23:45             ` Joe Perches
2019-07-31 19:03               ` [PATCH] linux/bits.h: Add compile time sanity check of GENMASK inputs Rikard Falkeborn
2019-07-31 19:27                 ` Joe Perches
2019-08-01 23:03                   ` Rikard Falkeborn
2019-08-02  1:40                   ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-08-02  3:13                     ` Joe Perches
2019-08-02  3:25                       ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-08-02 18:18                         ` Rikard Falkeborn
2019-08-03  3:03                           ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-08-03  3:12                             ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-08-03 18:36                               ` Rikard Falkeborn
2019-08-04  6:45                                 ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-08-05 19:55                                   ` Rikard Falkeborn
2019-08-06 15:19                                     ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-08-06 19:27                                       ` Rikard Falkeborn
2019-08-06 21:15                                         ` Joe Perches
2019-08-07 20:53                                           ` Rikard Falkeborn
2019-08-01  2:50                 ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-08-01  2:57                   ` Joe Perches
2019-08-01 23:03                     ` Rikard Falkeborn
2019-08-01 23:03                 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] linux/bits.h: Clarify macro argument names Rikard Falkeborn
2019-08-01 23:03                   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] linux/bits.h: Add compile time sanity check of GENMASK inputs Rikard Falkeborn
2019-08-01 23:14                     ` Joe Perches
2019-08-07 14:27                     ` Guenter Roeck
2019-08-07 14:55                       ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-08-07 16:52                         ` Guenter Roeck
2019-08-07 20:07                           ` Rikard Falkeborn
2019-08-08  0:07                         ` Joe Perches
2019-08-08  0:58                           ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2019-08-08  1:08                             ` Joe Perches
2019-08-08  1:53                               ` Guenter Roeck
2019-08-08  2:44                     ` kbuild test robot
2019-08-08  2:44                     ` kbuild test robot
2019-08-08  3:46                   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] linux/bits.h: Clarify macro argument names Masahiro Yamada
2019-08-10 18:43                     ` Rikard Falkeborn
2019-08-10 19:20                     ` Joe Perches
2019-08-11 18:49                   ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Add compile time sanity check of GENMASK inputs Rikard Falkeborn
2019-08-11 18:49                     ` [PATCH v3 1/3] x86/boot: Use common BUILD_BUG_ON Rikard Falkeborn
2019-08-12 18:19                       ` [tip:x86/boot] " tip-bot for Rikard Falkeborn
2019-08-16 12:19                       ` tip-bot for Rikard Falkeborn
2019-08-11 18:49                     ` [PATCH v3 2/3] linux/build_bug.h: Change type to int Rikard Falkeborn
2019-10-06  2:26                       ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-08-11 18:49                     ` [PATCH v3 3/3] linux/bits.h: Add compile time sanity check of GENMASK inputs Rikard Falkeborn
2019-10-06  2:30                       ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-10-08  7:23                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-10-08  7:44                         ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-10-08  7:52                           ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-10-08 19:06                             ` Rikard Falkeborn
2019-08-12 17:58                     ` [PATCH v3 0/3] " Kees Cook
2019-10-05 19:46                     ` Rikard Falkeborn
2019-10-09 21:45                     ` [Patch v4 0/2] " Rikard Falkeborn
2019-10-09 21:45                       ` [Patch v4 1/2] linux/build_bug.h: Change type to int Rikard Falkeborn
2019-10-09 21:45                       ` [Patch v4 2/2] linux/bits.h: Add compile time sanity check of GENMASK inputs Rikard Falkeborn
2019-10-10  2:24                         ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-10-12  2:27                         ` Andrew Morton
2019-10-22 19:53                           ` Rikard Falkeborn
2019-11-01 21:28                             ` Rikard Falkeborn
2020-03-08 19:39                               ` [PATCH v5] " Rikard Falkeborn
2020-03-09 16:40                                 ` Kees Cook
2019-07-11 21:30   ` [PATCH 00/12] treewide: Fix GENMASK misuses David Miller
2019-07-12 12:54   ` Andrzej Hajda

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